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Small Homes: Thoughts? Warm Worm 02-04-2008
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Posted by Warm Worm on February 4, 2008, 7:01 pm

Here're a few links to maybe help get your log rolling:

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/03/0314_microhomes/index_01.htm
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/04/very_small_hous_1.php
http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/houses.htm
http://www.landliving.com/articles/0000000581.aspx
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0789309742/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-5878034-9377625#reader-link

Still building big? Why? Why not?

My initial questions/thoughts:
Do smaller homes provide bigger design challenges? More of a creative
attention to choreography and efficiency, etc.?
When designing for a small home, should we consider hiring/importing
Japanese over North American architect talent?
Do small homes necessarily have to be/feel cramped or claustrophobic?
Do you try to suggest a smaller/greener footprint for your new clients'
homes? (Can there be as much money in it?)
How Does Ken's apparent new Okanagan home compare with his others?
Feelings? Ideas? Conclusions?
How small has Don designed? How big?
Anyone here specialize in small/green? How easy is it to find one who does?

How might have Chris E. responded?

This thread is dedicated to the late Christopher Egan, who initiated my
interest in "choreography".

Rich

Posted by ++ on February 4, 2008, 7:29 pm


Warm Worm wrote:

>
> Here're a few links to maybe help get your log rolling:
>
> http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/03/0314_microhomes/index_01.htm
> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/04/very_small_hous_1.php
> http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/houses.htm
> http://www.landliving.com/articles/0000000581.aspx
>
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0789309742/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-5878034-9377625#reader-link
>
>
> Still building big? Why? Why not?
>
> My initial questions/thoughts:
> Do smaller homes provide bigger design challenges?

yes, and renovating and expanding smaller homes even more

> More of a creative attention to choreography and efficiency, etc.?

space planning is the start, the middle and the finish of a small design

> When designing for a small home, should we consider hiring/importing
> Japanese over North American architect talent?

no, not for American homes

> Do small homes necessarily have to be/feel cramped or claustrophobic?

no

> Do you try to suggest a smaller/greener footprint for your new
> clients' homes?

yes

> (Can there be as much money in it?)

no more than any other type

> How Does Ken's apparent new Okanagan home compare with his others?
> Feelings? Ideas? Conclusions?

who cares?

> How small has Don designed? How big?

who cares?

> Anyone here specialize in small/green?

yes

> How easy is it to find one who does?

not hard

>
> How might have Chris E. responded?

didn't know him. Why not query his wife. There had to be a good reason
why Chris Egan left this newsgroup.

>
> This thread is dedicated to the late Christopher Egan, who initiated
> my interest in "choreography".

Explain what you think he meant by it or republish some of his old threads.

>
> Rich
>


Posted by Edgar on February 5, 2008, 11:26 am
>
> Here're a few links to maybe help get your log rolling:
>
> http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/03/0314_microhomes/index_01.htm
> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/04/very_small_hous_1.php
> http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/houses.htm
> http://www.landliving.com/articles/0000000581.aspx
>
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0789309742/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-5878034-9377625#reader-link
>
> Still building big? Why? Why not?
>
> My initial questions/thoughts:
> Do smaller homes provide bigger design challenges? More of a creative
> attention to choreography and efficiency, etc.?

Yes, function and overlapping functions would definitely help.

> When designing for a small home, should we consider hiring/importing
> Japanese over North American architect talent?

Not necessarily. Any architect worth his salt can and should adapt to any
design challenge.

> Do small homes necessarily have to be/feel cramped or claustrophobic?

I guess it can be, but a larger home can feel impersonal, empty, and cold as
well.

> Do you try to suggest a smaller/greener footprint for your new clients'
> homes? (Can there be as much money in it?)

I've tried to implement ideas in the design of schools, but budget is a
major constraint. I stick to the easy stuff like building orientation. If
I were to design homes, I think yes I would bring it up, but never force it
on someone. In school we were always thought you should always have a
reason for things you do. I would give them all the information they need
and let them decide for themselves.

> How Does Ken's apparent new Okanagan home compare with his others?

Is this the tiny home? I think it's brilliant, but I'd imagine it is
definitely a lifestyle, not just a home.

> Feelings? Ideas? Conclusions?

I personally think smaller is better. I've always like the use of layers,
and I think a smaller space benefits more from them. I think there can be
more creative use of things normally left to standard design and detail, for
instance a wall could be much more than just studs and drywall, as there is
wasted space between those studs. Or a ceiling or attic space. Lots of
little nooks and crannies for everyday little things that get ignored when
you have all the space in the world to work with.

> How small has Don designed? How big?
> Anyone here specialize in small/green? How easy is it to find one who
> does?
>
> How might have Chris E. responded?
>
> This thread is dedicated to the late Christopher Egan, who initiated my
> interest in "choreography".
>
> Rich

My current home is around 900 S.F. I couldn't imagine owning more than
that, but of course I have no kids or anything like that. It is plenty of
room for a couple, 2 cats, and a dog. Actually my dog probably has the most
room of all being able to use the rest of the 6000s.f. or so of land while
we're out of the house.

I think I would enjoy designing smaller homes just as much as bigger ones.
What I hate, and what seems to be the trend, is that smaller homes here in
California, equate to not only crap homes, with no character, but also homes
where you could reach across and touch your neighbor. It was one of the
reasons I wanted an old Bungalow. There is actually lots of room to expand
on my lot, which I would enjoy doing someday, but for now I'm good.

--
Edgar



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Posted by Warm Worm on February 10, 2008, 8:59 pm
Edgar wrote:
>> Here're a few links to maybe help get your log rolling:
>>
>> http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/03/0314_microhomes/index_01.htm
>> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/04/very_small_hous_1.php
>> http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/houses.htm
>> http://www.landliving.com/articles/0000000581.aspx
>>
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0789309742/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-5878034-9377625#reader-link
>>
>> Still building big? Why? Why not?
>>
>> My initial questions/thoughts:
>> Do smaller homes provide bigger design challenges? More of a creative
>> attention to choreography and efficiency, etc.?
>
> Yes, function and overlapping functions would definitely help.
>
>> When designing for a small home, should we consider hiring/importing
>> Japanese over North American architect talent?
>
> Not necessarily. Any architect worth his salt can and should adapt to any
> design challenge.
>
>> Do small homes necessarily have to be/feel cramped or claustrophobic?
>
> I guess it can be, but a larger home can feel impersonal, empty, and cold as
> well.
>
>> Do you try to suggest a smaller/greener footprint for your new clients'
>> homes? (Can there be as much money in it?)
>
> I've tried to implement ideas in the design of schools, but budget is a
> major constraint. I stick to the easy stuff like building orientation. If
> I were to design homes, I think yes I would bring it up, but never force it
> on someone. In school we were always thought you should always have a
> reason for things you do. I would give them all the information they need
> and let them decide for themselves.
>
>> How Does Ken's apparent new Okanagan home compare with his others?
>
> Is this the tiny home? I think it's brilliant, but I'd imagine it is
> definitely a lifestyle, not just a home.
>
>> Feelings? Ideas? Conclusions?
>
> I personally think smaller is better. I've always like the use of layers,
> and I think a smaller space benefits more from them. I think there can be
> more creative use of things normally left to standard design and detail, for
> instance a wall could be much more than just studs and drywall, as there is
> wasted space between those studs. Or a ceiling or attic space. Lots of
> little nooks and crannies for everyday little things that get ignored when
> you have all the space in the world to work with.
>
>> How small has Don designed? How big?
>> Anyone here specialize in small/green? How easy is it to find one who
>> does?
>>
>> How might have Chris E. responded?
>>
>> This thread is dedicated to the late Christopher Egan, who initiated my
>> interest in "choreography".
>>
>> Rich
>
> My current home is around 900 S.F. I couldn't imagine owning more than
> that, but of course I have no kids or anything like that. It is plenty of
> room for a couple, 2 cats, and a dog. Actually my dog probably has the most
> room of all being able to use the rest of the 6000s.f. or so of land while
> we're out of the house.

To me, 2 cats and a dog equal about 1 kid. ;)

> I think I would enjoy designing smaller homes just as much as bigger ones.
> What I hate, and what seems to be the trend, is that smaller homes here in
> California, equate to not only crap homes, with no character, but also homes
> where you could reach across and touch your neighbor.

"Excuse me, neighbor, but your shampoo just fell out of the tub...
Actually, just a minute, let me to get it for you..." (climbs over &
through window)
(neighbor says, "Oh hey, hi-- great, thanks!", while continuing to rinse
ears of soap.)

> It was one of the
> reasons I wanted an old Bungalow. There is actually lots of room to expand
> on my lot, which I would enjoy doing someday, but for now I'm good.

Was it you who posted a pic of your house awhile back?

Posted by Kris Krieger on February 12, 2008, 1:01 am

> "Warm Worm"> wrote
>> To me, 2 cats and a dog equal about 1 kid. ;)
>
> Wait til you've had a few hanging around for awhile, you'll change
> your tune.
> To me, a dog or cat seems sort like about a 2 yo kid, and they never
> get much smarter.

Yup. A smart dog, like a German SHepherd, or bird such as an African Grey,
are said to be capable of reasoning on the level of a 5-yr-old. ((I'm kind
of big on ethology, so I pick up on that sort of info.)) But that's as
good as it gets, in terms of intellignce. Basically, you just have ot like
dogs and want a dog (or other companion animal), and then just commit to
taking care of it.

> When a kid gets to be about 12 they start to become sort of self
> sufficient, that is, if the first 12 years of its parenting were
> proper. A dog or cat will always be dependent on its owners but a kid
> will become independent someday, well, most of them at least.

Kids are kind of a crap shoot, tho', too. Thre are all sorts of physical
and mental difficulties that can occur just as a matter of genetic
variability or mutation.


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