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Posted by Kris Krieger on January 28, 2008, 2:07 pm
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe
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> Thanks for the link. Seems logical that there were lesser refined
> buildings (as these buildings are fairly refined) before people
> starting improving on their skills.
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I had read, a long time ago, that the fluting of the Greek colimns
originated in the practice of wrapping mud columns with reeds so they'd
hold their shape while drying. Now that's indigenous ;)
THese sncient stone structures and complexes always fire the imagination,
makeing me wonder about the process, i.e. the evolution from impermanent to
permanent, and what practical and aesthetic forms led to teh eventual stone
forms.
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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on January 28, 2008, 2:24 pm
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>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe
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>> Thanks for the link. Seems logical that there were lesser refined
>> buildings (as these buildings are fairly refined) before people
>> starting improving on their skills.
>>
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> I had read, a long time ago, that the fluting of the Greek colimns
> originated in the practice of wrapping mud columns with reeds so they'd
> hold their shape while drying. Now that's indigenous ;)
>
> THese sncient stone structures and complexes always fire the imagination,
> makeing me wonder about the process, i.e. the evolution from impermanent
> to
> permanent, and what practical and aesthetic forms led to teh eventual
> stone
> forms.
Now imagine that this was done before the advent of agriculture and
technological specialization...
then covered up with soil thousands of years later....like it was
sacred...or evil.
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Posted by Kris Krieger on January 29, 2008, 2:29 pm
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>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe
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>>> Thanks for the link. Seems logical that there were lesser refined
>>> buildings (as these buildings are fairly refined) before people
>>> starting improving on their skills.
>>>
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>> I had read, a long time ago, that the fluting of the Greek colimns
>> originated in the practice of wrapping mud columns with reeds so
>> they'd hold their shape while drying. Now that's indigenous ;)
>>
>> THese sncient stone structures and complexes always fire the
>> imagination, makeing me wonder about the process, i.e. the evolution
>> from impermanent to
>> permanent, and what practical and aesthetic forms led to teh eventual
>> stone
>> forms.
>
> Now imagine that this was done before the advent of agriculture and
> technological specialization...
I'm way ahead of you there ;) As I said, I have an interest in the
plausibly possible "how's" as well as plausibly possible "why's" of
prehsitoric structures.
> then covered up with soil thousands of years later....like it was
> sacred...or evil.
I highly doubt that somethign so elaborate would have been erected for
"evil". It *is* plausible that some later group of people thought it
"evil" and buried it, but I think it's mroe likely that it would have been
razed had people thought it "evil". I think it's mroe likely that the
burying was an act of preservation.
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Posted by Kris Krieger on January 28, 2008, 2:04 pm
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe
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Interesting, thanks - I've developed a peculiar interest in ancient sites
(as in, before even the Romans or Greeks);Stonehenge for example, and not
because of the neo-"Druid" stuff associated with it, but how people might
have built it, including, how it might have been planned and then those
plans executed, as well as the possible reasons the mindset, that might lie
behind the plans. The Pyramids are well-documented, and, althought the
idiot Conquistadores burned all but, what, four?, of the Mayan books, there
is at least that much of a written roecord - no, what fascinates me is what
has no written record.
So, this was an interesting link to me, and gives me some info I can look
into further.
I especially liked the photo showing the bas relief of the animal. It
makes me want to "get into the heads" of the people who obviously put so
much energy into building the structures, to speculate on how they might
have perceived the world and their role in it, and how that perception
influenced their aesthetic and their reasons for transitioning from
impermanent structures (huts, yurts, or whatever) to masive and permanent
stone structures taht must have required quite a lot of planning and skill,
as well as manpower.
Anyway, it will be interesting to look into this further. THanks for the
link :)
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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on January 28, 2008, 2:19 pm
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe
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> Interesting, thanks - I've developed a peculiar interest in ancient sites
> (as in, before even the Romans or Greeks);Stonehenge for example, and not
> because of the neo-"Druid" stuff associated with it, but how people might
> have built it, including, how it might have been planned and then those
> plans executed, as well as the possible reasons the mindset, that might
> lie
> behind the plans. The Pyramids are well-documented, and, althought the
> idiot Conquistadores burned all but, what, four?, of the Mayan books,
> there
> is at least that much of a written roecord - no, what fascinates me is
> what
> has no written record.
>
> So, this was an interesting link to me, and gives me some info I can look
> into further.
>
> I especially liked the photo showing the bas relief of the animal.
Pretty, eh?
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