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Posted by Warm Worm on November 3, 2007, 5:18 pm
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> Warm Worm wrote:
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>> What's actually in your ice creams? Heavenly Hash and Tin Roof sounds
>> all hunky-chunky-dory, until you look at the ingredients in some brandz.
>
> Breyer's Lactose Free Natural Vanilla: Milk, sugar, cream, natural
> vanilla flavor, carob bean gum, lactase enzyme.
Well thanks I guess... I dislike the carob bean gum in there, and
there're eggs missing-- I prefer eggs-- so it's assumed that the gum
replaces those... It might be that those who are lactose-intolerant may
also have trouble with eggs too...
> Nutrition Information: (Half cup, 65g) Calories 130, calories from fat
> 60, total fat 7g, saturated fat 4.5g, cholesterol 20mg, sodium 35mg,
> total carbohydrate 14g, dietary fiber...
>
> Check out this letter:
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> Contact: Breanna Wagner
> GolinHarris
> 312-729-4326
> bwagner1@golinharris.com
> Shelley Ward
> GolinHarris
> 312-729-4292
> sward@golinharris.com
>
> Breyers’ All Natural Ice Cream Goes Green! New Line of Organic Ice Cream
> to Hit Supermarkets Nationwide
Haagen Dazs makes a green tea ice cream (at least for the Shanghai
market) that I quite like and that I had for the first and only time in
China's Shanghai airport, of all places.
I still haven't noticed it in Canada, although Vancouver does have
'Mondo Gelato' that serves a very close, and maybe even better,
approximation. Of course I'm in Ottawa.
> Green Bay, WI (Aug. 28, 2006) — This September, the company with a
> heritage for making ice cream with all-natural ingredients is going
> organic with the introduction of Breyers® All Natural Organic Ice Cream.
Green Bay, ay? More green...
I wonder if it won't become an excuse to charge an arm-and-a-leg for
something "new" that, presumably, was once norm...
When you whittle away the intrinsic value of something, and charge the
same price, or more for it, or a touch less that still does not reflect
the whittles, and/or make it somehow look like better quality, how might
that practice affect the cost/price of other things that still have high
intrinsic values (and when the competition has little choice if
everyone's shopping "Low-Mart")?
Also, how does it affect the capacity to create/offer intrinsic value in
general as well as our perceptions or expectations of quality, etc.?
Now that I'm on this line of thought, what do you think of
customer-cards that give you discounts, in exchange for knowing your
name, where you live, maybe your sex or age, and of course exactly what
you purchase?
How do you feel about the fact that, if you refuse, you're essentially
forced to pay more (while others, who succumb, are paying less), or to
shop further away from where you live (and therefore still pay more)?
> The new line of Breyers USDA-certified organic ice cream has been
> developed in response to consumers’ growing interest in organic foods.
Gee thanks... Take it away, and then look good by giving it back?
> According to the Organic Trade Association, organic
> foods are becoming an increasingly popular trend in the U.S., with
> organic food sales nearly tripling since 1997, growing between 17 and 21
percent each year. In the same
> period the organic ice cream segment has grown nearly 55 percent.
$$$$
<sound of an old-style cash register being punched and opened>
Ah, those were the days... ;)
> “We know people want natural and organic food options in more than just
> the produce section of the grocery store,” says Dan Hammer, vice president of
marketing for
> Unilever Ice Cream.
You get to buy ice cream from the same company that sells cleaning
agents...
<hypothetical tv commercial>
"Feel clean all over, and now, even inside! With our new organic ice cream!"
</htc>
[snipped free advertising for Unilever]
"Unilever's status as a large multinational has attracted a variety of
criticisms from political activists. For example, it has been criticised
for causing environmental pollution by Greenpeace, for testing products
on animals by PETA, and for making use of child labour, among others."
--Wikipedia.org
Looks like Unilever's helping to set an example of how we, too, can all
contribute to that special community spirit.
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Posted by Amy Blankenship on November 11, 2007, 11:33 pm
> "Warm Worm"> wrote
>> I wonder if it won't become an excuse to charge an arm-and-a-leg for
>> something "new" that, presumably, was once norm...
>
> I was gonna buy some *wheat* tortillas for some wraps I make every now and
> then.
> 2 packages were side by side, one was wheat and the other was whole wheat.
> Looking at the ingredients one was enriched wheat and the other cracked
> wheat.
> The cracked wheat, the better one, was $2 more per package.
> The *healthy* boomers are making the prices go to the moon.
Be grateful to them. Even five years ago, a lot of this stuff flat wasn't
available. Now you can get it if you are willing to pay for it.
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Posted by Kris Krieger on November 17, 2007, 3:49 pm
> ++ wrote:
>>
>>
>> Warm Worm wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What's actually in your ice creams? Heavenly Hash and Tin Roof
>>> sounds all hunky-chunky-dory, until you look at the ingredients in
>>> some brandz.
>>
>> Breyer's Lactose Free Natural Vanilla: Milk, sugar, cream, natural
>> vanilla flavor, carob bean gum, lactase enzyme.
>
> Well thanks I guess... I dislike the carob bean gum in there, and
> there're eggs missing-- I prefer eggs-- so it's assumed that the gum
> replaces those... It might be that those who are lactose-intolerant
> may also have trouble with eggs too...
No reason to assume that. Lactose is in milk (hence the "lact-" part of
the name, as in "lactation"). HTH!
>
> When you whittle away the intrinsic value of something, and charge the
> same price, or more for it, or a touch less that still does not
> reflect the whittles, and/or make it somehow look like better quality,
> how might that practice affect the cost/price of other things that
> still have high intrinsic values (and when the competition has little
> choice if everyone's shopping "Low-Mart")?
The thing about getting stuff at X-Mart is that it's often the same stuff
you pay more for in other stores. A half-gal of Low-Sodium V-8 is the
same there as it is anywhere else, except it's between $1 and $2 less at
WalMart.
It's not the fault of the X-Marts that major companies continually put
less food into containers, use lower-quality components in foodstuffs,
and pack foods prepared overseas (c.f. recent discover of melamine in
both pet foods and human foods).
Look at teh lowly can of green beans, still a staple in many homes. I
can remember when a can of green beans was a FULL can of green beans.
Now, it's half, or 2/3 if you are really lucky, of green beans, and the
rest is just salt water.
Everyone crabs about gasoline prices, and pays Zero attention to what is
happening with everything else.
OTOH, the price of things such as fluorescent light bulbs has come down
due to the mass-purchasing power of the X-Marts. Just imagine what might
happen if WalMart started selling, say, portable/interchangeable solar
panels!! IMO, it'd be great if there were portable units into which a
person could plug standard devices. PArt of the annoyance of solar is
not only the cost of the panels, but the wiring/non-pluggability/non-
portability.
Just a thought...
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Posted by Amy Blankenship on November 17, 2007, 7:56 pm
>
>> ++ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm Worm wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What's actually in your ice creams? Heavenly Hash and Tin Roof
>>>> sounds all hunky-chunky-dory, until you look at the ingredients in
>>>> some brandz.
>>>
>>> Breyer's Lactose Free Natural Vanilla: Milk, sugar, cream, natural
>>> vanilla flavor, carob bean gum, lactase enzyme.
>>
>> Well thanks I guess... I dislike the carob bean gum in there, and
>> there're eggs missing-- I prefer eggs-- so it's assumed that the gum
>> replaces those... It might be that those who are lactose-intolerant
>> may also have trouble with eggs too...
>
> No reason to assume that. Lactose is in milk (hence the "lact-" part of
> the name, as in "lactation"). HTH!
>
>
>>
>> When you whittle away the intrinsic value of something, and charge the
>> same price, or more for it, or a touch less that still does not
>> reflect the whittles, and/or make it somehow look like better quality,
>> how might that practice affect the cost/price of other things that
>> still have high intrinsic values (and when the competition has little
>> choice if everyone's shopping "Low-Mart")?
>
> The thing about getting stuff at X-Mart is that it's often the same stuff
> you pay more for in other stores. A half-gal of Low-Sodium V-8 is the
> same there as it is anywhere else, except it's between $1 and $2 less at
> WalMart.
>
> It's not the fault of the X-Marts that major companies continually put
> less food into containers, use lower-quality components in foodstuffs,
> and pack foods prepared overseas (c.f. recent discover of melamine in
> both pet foods and human foods).
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Wal-Mart in paricular consistently pressures
suppliers to cut prices by whatever means necessary. Additionally, the
products in Wal-Mart are not always exactly the same as similar models of
the same brand (for instance, Levi's makes jeans for Wal-Mart that are not
up to the same quality standards of the jeans they sell elsewhere).
> Look at teh lowly can of green beans, still a staple in many homes. I
> can remember when a can of green beans was a FULL can of green beans.
> Now, it's half, or 2/3 if you are really lucky, of green beans, and the
> rest is just salt water.
>
> Everyone crabs about gasoline prices, and pays Zero attention to what is
> happening with everything else.
>
>
> OTOH, the price of things such as fluorescent light bulbs has come down
> due to the mass-purchasing power of the X-Marts. Just imagine what might
> happen if WalMart started selling, say, portable/interchangeable solar
> panels!! IMO, it'd be great if there were portable units into which a
> person could plug standard devices. PArt of the annoyance of solar is
> not only the cost of the panels, but the wiring/non-pluggability/non-
> portability.
I think there are.
-Amy
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Posted by Kris Krieger on November 20, 2007, 5:41 pm
>
>>
>>> ++ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warm Worm wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What's actually in your ice creams? Heavenly Hash and Tin Roof
>>>>> sounds all hunky-chunky-dory, until you look at the ingredients in
>>>>> some brandz.
>>>>
>>>> Breyer's Lactose Free Natural Vanilla: Milk, sugar, cream, natural
>>>> vanilla flavor, carob bean gum, lactase enzyme.
>>>
>>> Well thanks I guess... I dislike the carob bean gum in there, and
>>> there're eggs missing-- I prefer eggs-- so it's assumed that the gum
>>> replaces those... It might be that those who are lactose-intolerant
>>> may also have trouble with eggs too...
>>
>> No reason to assume that. Lactose is in milk (hence the "lact-" part
>> of the name, as in "lactation"). HTH!
>>
>>
>>>
>>> When you whittle away the intrinsic value of something, and charge
>>> the same price, or more for it, or a touch less that still does not
>>> reflect the whittles, and/or make it somehow look like better
>>> quality, how might that practice affect the cost/price of other
>>> things that still have high intrinsic values (and when the
>>> competition has little choice if everyone's shopping "Low-Mart")?
>>
>> The thing about getting stuff at X-Mart is that it's often the same
>> stuff you pay more for in other stores. A half-gal of Low-Sodium V-8
>> is the same there as it is anywhere else, except it's between $1 and
>> $2 less at WalMart.
>>
>> It's not the fault of the X-Marts that major companies continually
>> put less food into containers, use lower-quality components in
>> foodstuffs, and pack foods prepared overseas (c.f. recent discover of
>> melamine in both pet foods and human foods).
>
> I wouldn't be so sure of that. Wal-Mart in paricular consistently
> pressures suppliers to cut prices by whatever means necessary.
> Additionally, the products in Wal-Mart are not always exactly the same
> as similar models of the same brand (for instance, Levi's makes jeans
> for Wal-Mart that are not up to the same quality standards of the
> jeans they sell elsewhere).
Wranglers seem to be the same (I don't go for Levi's because they tend to
be cut too "skinny", so I can't say anything about those).
I personally haven't found brand names that seem to differ, when I buy
brand names that is...
>
>> Look at teh lowly can of green beans, still a staple in many homes.
>> I can remember when a can of green beans was a FULL can of green
>> beans. Now, it's half, or 2/3 if you are really lucky, of green
>> beans, and the rest is just salt water.
>>
>> Everyone crabs about gasoline prices, and pays Zero attention to what
>> is happening with everything else.
>>
>>
>> OTOH, the price of things such as fluorescent light bulbs has come
>> down due to the mass-purchasing power of the X-Marts. Just imagine
>> what might happen if WalMart started selling, say,
>> portable/interchangeable solar panels!! IMO, it'd be great if there
>> were portable units into which a person could plug standard devices.
>> PArt of the annoyance of solar is not only the cost of the panels,
>> but the wiring/non-pluggability/non- portability.
>
> I think there are.
>
Maybe I just haven't gotten my search terms correct, then...have to re-
try.
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