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Posted by Amy Blankenship on November 11, 2007, 12:40 pm


>>> How much does a baby sheep or goat cost?
>>
>> Depends on the kind, sex, and the quality. Dairy goats cost more than
>> most meat goats. But a good dairy goat can produce roughly 6 times her
>> purchase price each year in milk, plus 2 kids a year. If those kids are
>> female, you then have made your purchase price 8 times a year. If you
>> can keep your expenses reasonable, it's a hobby you have a good chance of
>> doing better than breaking even.
>
> Give me a range for the price.
> $10? $50? $100? more?

In my area of the country, a dairy kid will go for about $150 (but that also
has a loose presumption that it is not weaned yet and that can be a lot of
work). However, the breed that does best here, Nubians, doesn't do well up
North, so you may have a different experience. A goat already milking will
be $400+, but then you know exactly what you are buying in terms of
production. A gallon of raw goat milk here goes for $8.

>>> What do you do with the chickens?
>>
>> I haven't decided what I'll do when I get ready to replace the laying
>> flock. Maybe we'll eat them, or maybe sell them cheap to someone who
>> doesn't care they're not laying every day any more.
>
> If I had a few chickens they would be mainly as *pets*, and to keep the
> bug population down and maybe a few eggs.

Don't forget fertilizer. That's actually their main use here.

> Maybe even give some eggs to the neighbors.
> We don't eat many eggs, probably less than 8 per month, between the 2 of
> us.

You may find that changes when you have hens. I might have said the same
once. I will say that eating a lot of fresh farm eggs results in a fresh,
toned complexion without the beauty products. Most of the little lines and
things I had before getting chickens filled out when I started eating a lot
of eggs. I initially lost about 5 lbs on eggs, too, but that came back.

> I wouldn't kill them and eat em, the chickes that is.

I don't know if I will be able to either. So far our murdering hen is still
alive, so we'll see.

> I think I'd like those colorful ones that are mainly black with some red
> and yellow on them.

Game chickens don't make very good pets. Sex links (which are basically
cross breeds bred for egg production) are an attractive red and white.
Cochins are just funny to watch run around and make good mothers if you like
to have the occasional baby chick around. They're not stellar producers of
eggs, but decent. And they come in a variety of colors and patterns. We
have a white rock rooster, who is magnificent and a great guardian of the
flock. He's even a decent pet, though he's not terribly interested in being
picked up and petted.

> I'll have to look into this.
> Chickes can't be very expensive can they?

The chickens themselves are not. The housing is where the investment is.
But I suspect you know how to solve that.

> I'm not wanting anything exotic.

Cochins kind of look exotic, but it's totally cute to watch this round
bundle of fluff bouncing from left to right as it runs.

-Amy



Posted by Amy Blankenship on November 11, 2007, 7:32 pm

> "Amy Blankenship"> wrote
>> Cochins kind of look exotic, but it's totally cute to watch this round
>> bundle of fluff bouncing from left to right as it runs.
>
> OK, I just googled Cochins.
> What we used to call Banty rooster when I was a kid.
> Our neighbor in rural PA had one that was mean and very aggressive.
> He tore up one of my sisters and my dad cornered it in the boathouse and
> cut its spurs off with tin snips.
> It was little, as far a chickens go, but he thought he was 10' tall.

You don't want Banty anything. I was talking about full size Cochins.
Banty is actually a size, and most breeds have a banty size. I can't speak
to Cochin roosters, but the hens are cool.

> Its best friend was a police dog named Choagie - that tore me up when I
> was sleeping in my tent in the yard at about age 10.

I'm constantly amazed that the cops don't have better control over these
dogs that are, in effect, weapons.

-Amy



Posted by Kris Krieger on November 17, 2007, 6:20 pm

>
>>
>>> "Amy Blankenship"> wrote
>>>> Cochins kind of look exotic, but it's totally cute to watch this
>>>> round bundle of fluff bouncing from left to right as it runs.
>>>
>>> OK, I just googled Cochins.
>>> What we used to call Banty rooster when I was a kid.
>>> Our neighbor in rural PA had one that was mean and very aggressive.
>>> He tore up one of my sisters and my dad cornered it in the boathouse
>>> and cut its spurs off with tin snips.
>>> It was little, as far a chickens go, but he thought he was 10' tall.
>>
>> You don't want Banty anything. I was talking about full size
>> Cochins. Banty is actually a size, and most breeds have a banty size.
>> I can't speak to Cochin roosters, but the hens are cool.
>>
>>> Its best friend was a police dog named Choagie - that tore me up
>>> when I was sleeping in my tent in the yard at about age 10.
>>
>> I'm constantly amazed that the cops don't have better control over
>> these dogs that are, in effect, weapons.
>
> The only thing that amazes me about cops is that more people aren't
> shooting them in the face instantly.
> I have 2 gurl spaniels and when I lived in suburbia I used to walk
> them on leashes around the block everynight at 10pm sharp.
> One night, in the dark, a Rottweller charged us by surprise.
> I pulled the gurlz behind me and repeatedly kicked the shit out of the
> Rott and it took off.
> Couple weeks later it happened again, this time it was a German
> Shepherd, again I kicked the shit out of it, this time I think I
> killed it. Couple more weeks go by and another Rott jumps us and I do
> the kicking thing again and it takes off.
> This time I went home and called animal control and got a recording.
> Then I called the cops and they asked if I had a concealed weapons
> permit and I said yes.
> The cops told me to shoot the attacking dog(s).
>
>

THen you would prob get jumped on by the ASPCA, and sued by the "owners".
Assuming you talked about itand they could trace who you are.

IMO, the "owners" should be treated like anyone who assaults someone with
a weapon - AND finced etc. for animal cruelty. People know damn good and
well when their dogs have been made vicious - because they often see to
that themselves by abusing the animal =>:-p



Posted by Kris Krieger on November 17, 2007, 6:16 pm

[ ... ]
>
> Game chickens don't make very good pets.

I'm not sure what you mean by "game chickens", but when I'd volunteered
at eh raptor rehab place, they had chickens running around the place. I
really liked them - they just cracked me up, dunno why. There was a
rooster which was not very large, but was very colorful, almost like some
sort of cropss between a chicken and a wood duck. THer ewere a couple of
*large* light-brown hens. I don't remember them all, tho', because that
was about 8 years ago. All I remember is that they cracked me up, and fi
I was in a funk, I would get a lift by goign out an drunning around with
them and feeding them.

> Sex links (which are
> basically cross breeds bred for egg production) are an attractive red
> and white. Cochins are just funny to watch run around and make good
> mothers if you like to have the occasional baby chick around. They're
> not stellar producers of eggs, but decent. And they come in a variety
> of colors and patterns. We have a white rock rooster, who is
> magnificent and a great guardian of the flock. He's even a decent
> pet, though he's not terribly interested in being picked up and
> petted.

I thought that a "pet" is basically just an animal you keep for
enjoyment...? I guess msot peole think of "pet" as something one
pets...? I dunno.

I also like quali. I don't think i am allowed to have any chickens here,
but I think it'd also be cool to have quail; they crack me up, too ;)


>
>> I'll have to look into this.
>> Chickes can't be very expensive can they?
>
> The chickens themselves are not. The housing is where the investment
> is. But I suspect you know how to solve that.
>
>> I'm not wanting anything exotic.
>
> Cochins kind of look exotic, but it's totally cute to watch this round
> bundle of fluff bouncing from left to right as it runs.
>
> -Amy
>
>
>


Posted by George Conklin on November 11, 2007, 9:52 pm

>
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Amy Blankenship wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sounds like fun . Post directions here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>http://www.101cookbooks.com/archives/000282.html
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a lot,
> >>>
> >>> Although I have tried making cheese with buttermilk, I never thought
of
> >>> pairing one part buttermilk with four parts regular milk. Going to
try
> >>> it, but reading the blog made me want to try and find a source for the
> >>> sheep's or goat's whey and uncover the old methods
> >>
> >> If you make one recipe with sheep or goat's milk, you will have whey as
a
> >> byproduct. I feed that to the chickens mostly, and cook with it.
> >
> > How much does a baby sheep or goat cost?
>
> Depends on the kind, sex, and the quality. Dairy goats cost more than
most
> meat goats. But a good dairy goat can produce roughly 6 times her
purchase
> price each year in milk, plus 2 kids a year. If those kids are female,
you
> then have made your purchase price 8 times a year. If you can keep your
> expenses reasonable, it's a hobby you have a good chance of doing better
> than breaking even.
>
> > What do you do with the chickens?
>
> I haven't decided what I'll do when I get ready to replace the laying
flock.
> Maybe we'll eat them, or maybe sell them cheap to someone who doesn't care
> they're not laying every day any more.
>
> -Amy
>
>

You are going to eat the ridge runners? Old laying hens? Boil them until
the bones get soft and the meat is still tough. Been there, done that.




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