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Unusual Elements in Architecture Warm Worm 05-13-2006
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Posted by Warm Worm on May 13, 2006, 4:23 am
I'm currently reading a book called 'The House You Build', and it mentions
and has industrial windows for a home, for example, which look pretty decent
incorporated into the design, and I thought to ask you guys what you think
about using "industrial", recycled, or otherwise unusual elements for the
home, and in *your* designs specifically if you do or don't.
In this regard how do you approach it-- practically or theoretically or at
all?
Where do you get your stuff, and look for inspiration? What stands out for
you and makes you choose something over something else.
What might be the cost differences, and how easily/readily-available for
home use are they, or where would they be acquired? I presume it's a matter
of knowing the right suppliers and that there are those (both architects as
well as suppliers) that specialize in
recycled/industrial/unusual/renewable/alternative/etc. stuff?

--
I might be a worm, but I'm warm. :)


Posted by 3D Peruna on May 13, 2006, 10:25 am
Warm Worm wrote:
> I'm currently reading a book called 'The House You Build', and it
> mentions and has industrial windows for a home, for example, which look
> pretty decent incorporated into the design, and I thought to ask you
> guys what you think about using "industrial", recycled, or otherwise
> unusual elements for the home, and in *your* designs specifically if you
> do or don't.
> In this regard how do you approach it-- practically or theoretically or
> at all?
> Where do you get your stuff, and look for inspiration? What stands out
> for you and makes you choose something over something else.
> What might be the cost differences, and how easily/readily-available for
> home use are they, or where would they be acquired? I presume it's a
> matter of knowing the right suppliers and that there are those (both
> architects as well as suppliers) that specialize in
> recycled/industrial/unusual/renewable/alternative/etc. stuff?
>


Ditto to what Don said...

But I've also found that with some things, like windows, that the cost
per sq. ft. is almost the same, but it does change the aesthetic. I
have storefronts in my house, along with more standard residential
windows (H-Windows).

But I've also used a few commercial items, like commercial vinyl for our
kitchens and baths (we don't like the hardness of ceramic, I don't think
laminates are durable enough, and wood won't take the wear).

It can be done, you just have to be selective about it. Often, it won't
be less expensive, just more durable.


Posted by Warm Worm on May 15, 2006, 4:28 pm

"3D Peruna"
> "Warm Worm"
>> I'm currently reading a book called 'The House You Build', and it
>> mentions and has industrial windows for a home, for example, which look
>> pretty decent incorporated into the design, and I thought to ask you guys
>> what you think about using "industrial", recycled, or otherwise unusual
>> elements for the home, and in *your* designs specifically if you do or
>> don't.
>> In this regard how do you approach it-- practically or theoretically or
>> at all?
>> Where do you get your stuff, and look for inspiration? What stands out
>> for you and makes you choose something over something else.
>> What might be the cost differences, and how easily/readily-available for
>> home use are they, or where would they be acquired? I presume it's a
>> matter of knowing the right suppliers and that there are those (both
>> architects as well as suppliers) that specialize in
>> recycled/industrial/unusual/renewable/alternative/etc. stuff?
>>
>
>
> Ditto to what Don said...
>
> But I've also found that with some things, like windows, that the cost per
> sq. ft. is almost the same, but it does change the aesthetic. I have
> storefronts in my house, along with more standard residential windows
> (H-Windows).
>
> But I've also used a few commercial items, like commercial vinyl for our
> kitchens and baths

Cool.

> (we don't like the hardness of ceramic, I don't think laminates are
> durable enough, and wood won't take the wear).
> It can be done, you just have to be selective about it. Often, it won't
> be less expensive, just more durable.

That's the sense I get.
And it appears that when designers and consumer-oriented manufacturers,
etc., get wind that some consumers are using items outside the usual, they
end up incorporating it into their selection-- perhaps at a greater premium
and lower quality (durability). What do you think?


Posted by Kris Krieger on May 16, 2006, 5:03 pm

>
> "3D Peruna"
>> "Warm Worm"
>>> I'm currently reading a book called 'The House You Build', and it
>>> mentions and has industrial windows for a home, for example, which
>>> look pretty decent incorporated into the design, and I thought to
>>> ask you guys what you think about using "industrial", recycled, or
>>> otherwise unusual elements for the home, and in *your* designs
>>> specifically if you do or don't.
>>> In this regard how do you approach it-- practically or theoretically
>>> or at all?
>>> Where do you get your stuff, and look for inspiration? What stands
>>> out for you and makes you choose something over something else.
>>> What might be the cost differences, and how easily/readily-available
>>> for home use are they, or where would they be acquired? I presume
>>> it's a matter of knowing the right suppliers and that there are
>>> those (both architects as well as suppliers) that specialize in
>>> recycled/industrial/unusual/renewable/alternative/etc. stuff?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ditto to what Don said...
>>
>> But I've also found that with some things, like windows, that the
>> cost per sq. ft. is almost the same, but it does change the
>> aesthetic. I have storefronts in my house, along with more standard
>> residential windows (H-Windows).
>>
>> But I've also used a few commercial items, like commercial vinyl for
>> our kitchens and baths
>
> Cool.
>
>> (we don't like the hardness of ceramic, I don't think laminates are
>> durable enough, and wood won't take the wear).
>> It can be done, you just have to be selective about it. Often, it
>> won't be less expensive, just more durable.
>
> That's the sense I get.
> And it appears that when designers and consumer-oriented
> manufacturers, etc., get wind that some consumers are using items
> outside the usual, they end up incorporating it into their selection--
> perhaps at a greater premium and lower quality (durability). What do
> you think?
>
>

Look at industrial glass block. GLass block used to be one of the cheapest
things in the world to put into a window frame. I liked it years back,
because it was hard to break, "pre-insulated" (dead air space inside), let
in light, yet allowed for privacy because of the surface patterns. It used
to be incredibly cheap, becuase most people thought it was "tacky".

Then, it became "sheek" =:-p - now look at the cost of it...

Posted by Kris Krieger on May 16, 2006, 6:08 pm

> "Kris Krieger"> wrote
>> Look at industrial glass block. GLass block used to be one of the
>> cheapest
>> things in the world to put into a window frame. I liked it years
>> back, because it was hard to break, "pre-insulated" (dead air space
>> inside), let in light, yet allowed for privacy because of the surface
>> patterns. It used
>> to be incredibly cheap, becuase most people thought it was "tacky".
>>
>> Then, it became "sheek" =:-p - now look at the cost of it...
>
> The barracks I lived in in Germany were built in the 30's to house the
> SS and each floor had a large, say 15'x15' shower and one whole wall
> was glass block from floor to ceiling. It was an outside wall and when
> snow was on the ground you could see people walking outside. It was
> that standard wavy stuff.
>
>

I thought it was more obscuring than that - or were there no details?
Hopefully they couldn't see in (unless of course you were charging for the
view <L!>)

We could have gotten block (diamond-patterned surface) in the bathroom of
the new place, but they wanted $750 for the 4'X4' window. I was apalled by
the price. The standard for our model is a double-paned windone where one
pane is "rain glass" (looks like droplets), so we kept that.

I saw some pics of pool spas that used glass block, and had lights in the
spa, so the effect at night was interresting. I thought of that for our
pool, but ended up nixing the spa in favor of swimming space (the pool will
be 30'X15' - the steps and the water-wall are in notches off to the side).
But that glass block looked good. I saw something on TV where the spa wall
was made from wine bottles - sounds tacky but it also looked good, esp.
backlit at night.

I'm trying to think whether I can put some sort of glass'n'concrete
construct in the back ((just what the world needs - I bought a book on how
to make concrete yard thingies, various concrete receipes, and so on)),
just because I like the look of glass when it's lit. That's one thing I
also like about glass block in a house - it can, if well-designed, look
beautiful when lit at night.
((Maybe I can make up a "bottle henge" <LOL!>))

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