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Posted by RicodJour on March 11, 2008, 10:25 am
> "Warm Worm"> wrote
>
> > I might have mentioned this on here before, but why is it that a lot of
> > "inward-looking-use" architecture seems to be situated right on the
> > waterfronts-- areas that would otherwise be put to better advantage for
> > their views?
>
> > For examples, in Halifax and Vancouver (Sydney's Opera House?), they have
> > their casino and trade/convention centre, respectively, right on the
> > waterfronts.
>
> > There just seems to be a kind of counter-intuitiveness and/or
> > inward-looking way, as to how a lot of urban waterfronts are
> > designed/developed.
>
> Good point.
> Most residential applications emphasize the view *toward* the water but
> commercial projects focus attention *from* the water.
> If you're in a stadium watching a game you aren't looking at the view of the
> water.
> So, the greatest feature, waterview, is not being exploited.
> Perhaps the city planners have this all wrong?

Not really. Not everyone is at the stadium or opera house. The
majority of people look past it as they view the water, and that's
every hour of every day, not just when an event is taking place.
People on the water don't think the water is the most interesting view
- it's the shoreline.

You guys are myopic. :)~

R

Posted by Warm Worm on March 11, 2008, 3:53 pm
RicodJour wrote:
>> "Warm Worm"> wrote
>>
>>> I might have mentioned this on here before, but why is it that a lot of
>>> "inward-looking-use" architecture seems to be situated right on the
>>> waterfronts-- areas that would otherwise be put to better advantage for
>>> their views?
>>> For examples, in Halifax and Vancouver (Sydney's Opera House?), they have
>>> their casino and trade/convention centre, respectively, right on the
>>> waterfronts.
>>> There just seems to be a kind of counter-intuitiveness and/or
>>> inward-looking way, as to how a lot of urban waterfronts are
>>> designed/developed.
>> Good point.
>> Most residential applications emphasize the view *toward* the water but
>> commercial projects focus attention *from* the water.
>> If you're in a stadium watching a game you aren't looking at the view of the
>> water.
>> So, the greatest feature, waterview, is not being exploited.
>> Perhaps the city planners have this all wrong?
>
> Not really. Not everyone is at the stadium or opera house. The
> majority of people look past it as they view the water, and that's
> every hour of every day, not just when an event is taking place.

Ok, but they're blocking the view and with an inward-looking event no less.
Here in Vancouver, when you look out over the water, depending on which
way you're looking, you can also see the mountains, the opposite
shoreline, and/or far off into the distance. You also can get far more
of the sky and sun, including its rises and sets.
I guess part of my point is that the main cafe/pedestrian strips where
you can hang out and "enjoy" the view are in the middle of the city
that, without the above views, make it feel like any other city, with
cars and another building and Starbucks across from the ones you're at--
yet more of that inward-looking feel.

> People on the water don't think the water is the most interesting view
> - it's the shoreline.

Of course the shoreline is also viewable from across the water on the
opposite shoreline and there's interesting activity on the water, too.

Posted by RicodJour on March 11, 2008, 5:13 pm
> RicodJour wrote:
> >> "Warm Worm"> wrote
>
> >>> I might have mentioned this on here before, but why is it that a lot of
> >>> "inward-looking-use" architecture seems to be situated right on the
> >>> waterfronts-- areas that would otherwise be put to better advantage for
> >>> their views?
> >>> For examples, in Halifax and Vancouver (Sydney's Opera House?), they have
> >>> their casino and trade/convention centre, respectively, right on the
> >>> waterfronts.
> >>> There just seems to be a kind of counter-intuitiveness and/or
> >>> inward-looking way, as to how a lot of urban waterfronts are
> >>> designed/developed.
> >> Good point.
> >> Most residential applications emphasize the view *toward* the water but
> >> commercial projects focus attention *from* the water.
> >> If you're in a stadium watching a game you aren't looking at the view of the
> >> water.
> >> So, the greatest feature, waterview, is not being exploited.
> >> Perhaps the city planners have this all wrong?
>
> > Not really. Not everyone is at the stadium or opera house. The
> > majority of people look past it as they view the water, and that's
> > every hour of every day, not just when an event is taking place.
>
> Ok, but they're blocking the view and with an inward-looking event no less.
> Here in Vancouver, when you look out over the water, depending on which
> way you're looking, you can also see the mountains, the opposite
> shoreline, and/or far off into the distance. You also can get far more
> of the sky and sun, including its rises and sets.
> I guess part of my point is that the main cafe/pedestrian strips where
> you can hang out and "enjoy" the view are in the middle of the city
> that, without the above views, make it feel like any other city, with
> cars and another building and Starbucks across from the ones you're at--
> yet more of that inward-looking feel.
>
> > People on the water don't think the water is the most interesting view
> > - it's the shoreline.
>
> Of course the shoreline is also viewable from across the water on the
> opposite shoreline and there's interesting activity on the water, too.

Oh, well, why didn't you say so? That's no problem, just list all of
the activities/buildings that require no tradeoffs, are equally
enjoyable from indoors and out, appeal to all people at all times, are
spectacularly viewable from all angles, and we'll be happy to build
them for you...for free.

R

Posted by Warm Worm on March 11, 2008, 8:50 pm
RicodJour wrote:
>> RicodJour wrote:
>>>> "Warm Worm"> wrote
>>>>> I might have mentioned this on here before, but why is it that a lot of
>>>>> "inward-looking-use" architecture seems to be situated right on the
>>>>> waterfronts-- areas that would otherwise be put to better advantage for
>>>>> their views?
>>>>> For examples, in Halifax and Vancouver (Sydney's Opera House?), they have
>>>>> their casino and trade/convention centre, respectively, right on the
>>>>> waterfronts.
>>>>> There just seems to be a kind of counter-intuitiveness and/or
>>>>> inward-looking way, as to how a lot of urban waterfronts are
>>>>> designed/developed.
>>>> Good point.
>>>> Most residential applications emphasize the view *toward* the water but
>>>> commercial projects focus attention *from* the water.
>>>> If you're in a stadium watching a game you aren't looking at the view of the
>>>> water.
>>>> So, the greatest feature, waterview, is not being exploited.
>>>> Perhaps the city planners have this all wrong?
>>> Not really. Not everyone is at the stadium or opera house. The
>>> majority of people look past it as they view the water, and that's
>>> every hour of every day, not just when an event is taking place.
>> Ok, but they're blocking the view and with an inward-looking event no less.
>> Here in Vancouver, when you look out over the water, depending on which
>> way you're looking, you can also see the mountains, the opposite
>> shoreline, and/or far off into the distance. You also can get far more
>> of the sky and sun, including its rises and sets.
>> I guess part of my point is that the main cafe/pedestrian strips where
>> you can hang out and "enjoy" the view are in the middle of the city
>> that, without the above views, make it feel like any other city, with
>> cars and another building and Starbucks across from the ones you're at--
>> yet more of that inward-looking feel.
>>
>>> People on the water don't think the water is the most interesting view
>>> - it's the shoreline.
>> Of course the shoreline is also viewable from across the water on the
>> opposite shoreline and there's interesting activity on the water, too.
>
> Oh, well, why didn't you say so? That's no problem, just list all of
> the activities/buildings that require no tradeoffs, are equally
> enjoyable from indoors and out, appeal to all people at all times, are
> spectacularly viewable from all angles, and we'll be happy to build
> them for you...for free.

Well ok, but the indoor inward-looking buildings are probably one of the
last things I'd put on the waterfronts if the sky was indeed the limit.

Posted by Michael Bulatovich on March 11, 2008, 5:17 pm
Warm Worm wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
>>> "Warm Worm"> wrote
>>>
>>>> I might have mentioned this on here before, but why is it that a
>>>> lot of "inward-looking-use" architecture seems to be situated
>>>> right on the waterfronts-- areas that would otherwise be put to
>>>> better advantage for their views?
>>>> For examples, in Halifax and Vancouver (Sydney's Opera House?),
>>>> they have their casino and trade/convention centre, respectively,
>>>> right on the waterfronts.
>>>> There just seems to be a kind of counter-intuitiveness and/or
>>>> inward-looking way, as to how a lot of urban waterfronts are
>>>> designed/developed.
>>> Good point.
>>> Most residential applications emphasize the view *toward* the water
>>> but commercial projects focus attention *from* the water.
>>> If you're in a stadium watching a game you aren't looking at the
>>> view of the water.
>>> So, the greatest feature, waterview, is not being exploited.
>>> Perhaps the city planners have this all wrong?
>>
>> Not really. Not everyone is at the stadium or opera house. The
>> majority of people look past it as they view the water, and that's
>> every hour of every day, not just when an event is taking place.
>
> Ok, but they're blocking the view and with an inward-looking event no
> less. Here in Vancouver, when you look out over the water, depending
> on which way you're looking, you can also see the mountains, the
> opposite shoreline, and/or far off into the distance. You also can
> get far more of the sky and sun, including its rises and sets.
> I guess part of my point is that the main cafe/pedestrian strips where
> you can hang out and "enjoy" the view are in the middle of the city
> that, without the above views, make it feel like any other city, with
> cars and another building and Starbucks across from the ones you're
> at-- yet more of that inward-looking feel.
>
>> People on the water don't think the water is the most interesting
>> view - it's the shoreline.
>
> Of course the shoreline is also viewable from across the water on the
> opposite shoreline and there's interesting activity on the water, too.

...and the juxtaposition of building types makes for an image that has some
dynamism. A wall of glass condo towers can get pretty dull pretty fast, and
turns into a ground without a figure.



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