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Why don't people sit out on their balconies? research 04-02-2007
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Posted by on April 5, 2007, 1:57 am

>
> IMO? It's a three-pronged situation:
> (1) the lack of privacy, or rather, a lack of understanding and/or the
> effort required to do a few things to enhance balcony privacy;
> (2) blaconies that are too small to be sueful and/or to have priovacy
> adaptations made to them. A combination of potted plants and screening
> materials can be used to create an area which is not completely open to
> the stares of strangers, but first, the balcony (or patio) has to be
> large enough to accomidate both those materials, and a modest seating
> arrangement - and second, it takes a bit of knowledge about design and
> about the plants and materials themselves;
> (3) poeple increasingly are focused upon *lifestyle* as opposed to
> *living*. They envy people who *live* yet are not willing to adjust
> their own attitudes (and activities) in order to do so. In the end,
> although most people will get a wistful expression, and make wistful
> sounds, with regards to something like sitting outside to have their
> mornign coffee, with some greenery around to give a bit of privacy, and
> yet some views of the city and its activities, the fact is that most
> don't want to put the time, money, or effort into creating such a space,
> and evenif they wanted to pay someone else to create the space, most
> don't want to get out of bed five or ten minutes earlier so as to
> actually sit down and have some coffee or tea and a bit of breakfast. In
> short, that sort of thing is not seen as a "value producing" activity -
> it's personal, and provate, so you don't gain any social status from it;
> and it's "non-productive", i.e. does not involve making money, or making
> contacts with other people whom one thinks will lead to money-making
> connections. This is related to people having "trophy/lifestyle kids" -
> i.e., the "requisite" one or two kids, whom they then proceed to foist
> off onto nannies and daycare, and otherwise ignore. It they were more
> intrested in *living*, they'd take time to enjoy the kids as they
> developed and learned to explore the world - IOW, the kids would be a
> *part of their lives*, rather than mere window-dressing, i.e. *part of
> their lifestyle*.
>
> Building designers understand thse things, at least on a subconscious
> level, so balconies are not designed for *living*. They'r more like the
> "requisite" pathetic little fireplace inserts that get shoved into so
> many homes and condos, and usually just end up making the wallspace
> useless (because fires are pretty messy affairs, so many, and from what
> I've seen most, people seldom bother with them). IOW, it's a geegaw
> that's become expected as part of a certain class of "lifestyle", yet has
> very little to do with how people actually *live*.
>
> At least, that's my personal take on it.

Thanks, KMK.

That sounds exactly right. Lifestyle image vs life.
The fireplace comparison is perfect.

Got it.

Jim Heath
viacorp.com


>
> > I'd be glad for any clues, or contact details for anyone
> > who may have insights into it.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > My latest web publication, which branches a little
> > in architecture: "Tips on choosing a suburb in Perth."
> >http://www.viacorp.com/perth-suburbs-compared.html
> > Looking at a lot of houses when I was researching this,
> > I suddenly "saw" the empty balconies.
>
> > Jim Heath
> > viacorp.com
> > Perth



Posted by Warm Worm on April 6, 2007, 6:15 pm
On Apr 2, 10:19 pm, resea...@viacorp.com wrote:
> Who I am: a non-fiction writer in Perth, Australia, who sometimes
> just gets curious about something.
>
> What has me wondering this time is this: tens of thousands
> of balconies around Perth, almost never used by humans.

(I sent a response, but Google didn't seem to catch it...)

People do use their balconies. I see them hanging out for a sightsee,
cool breeze, snooze, sun-tan, smoke, chat, barbeque.
Balconies are different from living rooms or bedrooms and therefore
have different usages and levels of usage.

> Do they only have in mind using them for pot plants...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC_bud

The basement might be a better place for that.

> drying clothes, arranging chairs for ghosts to sit in, or usually nothing at
all?

You've already named 3 more uses for them. Pretty good for mere
balconies.

> I am: a non-fiction writer

?

> What is the psychology here?

That you might want to create a work of fiction and influence popular
opinion and architectural vernacular? ;)

> Has anyone studied this phenomenon? I have done a lot of Google searches,
looked through hundreds of book titles at Amazon, but nothing comes up that
explains this business.


You may be the first...
Imagine influencing the visual landscape of architecture by your
book... I can just see it on the back sleeve:

"Jim Heath, of Viacorp and author of 'Tips on choosing a suburb in
Perth', has almost single-handedly changed the residential
architectural landscape with this new runaway best-selling hit!"


Posted by on April 7, 2007, 8:03 pm
> On Apr 2, 10:19 pm, resea...@viacorp.com wrote:
>

> > Do they only have in mind using them for pot plants...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC_bud
>
> The basement might be a better place for that.

Ah. I see what's going on. In Australia, a "pot plant" means a
decorative plant
in a pot. That's what I see on some balconies. At least that's what I
think I see.
Next time I'll take binoculars.

>
> > What is the psychology here?
>
> That you might want to create a work of fiction and influence popular
> opinion and architectural vernacular? ;)
>
> > Has anyone studied this phenomenon? I have done a lot of Google searches,
looked through hundreds of book titles at Amazon, but nothing comes up that
explains this business.

>
> You may be the first...
> Imagine influencing the visual landscape of architecture by your
> book... I can just see it on the back sleeve:
>
> "Jim Heath, of Viacorp and author of 'Tips on choosing a suburb in
> Perth', has almost single-handedly changed the residential
> architectural landscape with this new runaway best-selling hit!"

No need. I've got my answer and anyone else can now find it too --
that
balconies are mainly useless decoration meant to impress or to look
like everyone else's decoration. That seems to be what's going on.
Like those fireplaces in new houses that no one will ever light.

BTW: I also posted my question on alt.psychology but got no answers.
I thought that balconies might have some deep-psyche meaning. Maybe
the psychologists are still thinking about it.

Meanwhile, alt.architecture sorted me out. Thanks.


Jim Heath


Posted by Michael Bulatovich on April 7, 2007, 8:38 pm
PS...

In multiunit residential buildings here, "outdoor amenity space" is required
by zoning, and this often translates into balconies. Something similar may
be at work down under.
--


MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca



Posted by Warm Worm on April 8, 2007, 5:09 pm
> "Warm Worm" wrote:
>
> > resea...@viacorp.com wrote:
> In Australia, a "pot plant" means a decorative plant in a pot. That's what I
see on some balconies. At least that's what I
> think I see.

That's what I suspected you meant, but maybe what you were seeing were
little people.

> Next time I'll take binoculars.

Good idea.

> > > What is the psychology here?
>
> > That you might want to create a work of fiction and influence popular
> > opinion and architectural vernacular? ;)
>
> >
> Has anyone studied this phenomenon? I have done a lot of Google searches,
looked through hundreds of book titles at Amazon,
> but nothing comes up that explains this business.
>
> > You may be the first...
> > Imagine influencing the visual landscape of architecture by your
> > book... I can just see it on the back sleeve:
>
> > "Jim Heath, of Viacorp and author of 'Tips on choosing a suburb in
> > Perth', has almost single-handedly changed the residential
> > architectural landscape with this new runaway best-selling hit!"
>
> No need. I've got my answer and anyone else can now find it too --
> that balconies are mainly useless decoration meant to impress or to look
> like everyone else's decoration. That seems to be what's going on.
> Like those fireplaces in new houses that no one will ever light.

In life, there're places for art, decoration and irrationality, as
well, I suppose, as journalists'/writers'/media's "armchair-notions"
of intent, motivation, uselessness and social-engineering.

> BTW: I also posted my question on alt.psychology but got no answers.

I wonder why.

> I thought that balconies might have some deep-psyche meaning. Maybe
> the psychologists are still thinking about it.

Maybe they're researching the matter. Anecdotal evidence goes only so
far, and practically anyone can write a book about anything.

> People do use their balconies. I see them hanging out for a sightsee,
> cool breeze, snooze, sun-tan, smoke, chat, barbeque.
> Balconies are different from living rooms or bedrooms and therefore
> have different usages and levels of usage."

> alt.architecture sorted me out.

Cool.

> Thanks.

You're welcome.

> Jim Heath


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