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Posted by Kris Krieger on May 19, 2006, 7:58 pm
> "Kris Krieger"> wrote
>> The other thing is that, when you use recycled materials, the cost is
>> usually minimal - and often, nothing more than a matter of your time
>> in making it. The main enjoyment is in the doing. So, if you decide
>> you don't like it, or get tired of it, it's no huge loss to remove
>> it.
>
> Now this is the thing that has always bothered me when I see it, and I
> see it frequently.
> Maybe its different for self employed people than employees.
>
> My time is the most valuable thing I own.
> If I am sitting at my desk doing work I am earning a minimal $50 and
> hour. If I ain't, I ain't.
> So when you say '...the cost is usually minimal....nothing more than a
> matter of your time...' I see this from a whole nuther perspective.
>
> Take zenbooms divider, if it takes 8 hours to do it, then my time/cost
> is at least $400.00 (8x $50/hr).
> Now weigh that against simply buying a divider for $400 and be done
> with it. The fulcrum in all of this is the part where you mention
> '...the enjoyment is in the doing...'.
> Of all the things one could be doing when NOT working one must decide
> if building the divider, or anything else, is worth what the cost, in
> time, is.
That's all very true - if you don't like doing that sort of thing. But if
you decide you'd really enjoy just doing it, for soem reason or another or
just "because", then it's still worthwhile to make it.
The other thing is, if you can't find anything to buy that you like and
that fits your budget, you can do without, you can buy something you don't
like but that does the job, or you can do without it.
>
> Earl Nightingale said, all of your time is divieded into 2 groups.
> 1) Goal achieving.
> 2) Tension relieving.
>
> Clement Stone said that 1 should consist of 80% or more of your waking
> hours.
What if the pure enjoyment of figuring out how to make something, then
making is, *is* your favorite goal ;) ?
Frankly, I'd rather pay someone a couple hundred to clean my dang house,
than pay 1/4 as much for something I hated as opposed to taking the time to
make it. Of course, I really do love making stuff, whereas, I *loathe*
repetetive tasks (such as cleaning, which is never "finished" because it
has to be done again, and again, and again, and again, and....)
Heaven to me would be having the time, the health, the space, and the
resources to make stuff all the time :) Well, with *some* left over for
eating, swimming and walking, playing ith the parrot, and so on.
> Zig Ziglar said that life is a big tree in your front yard that has
> leaves that are $100 bills.
> I want to get up early everyday and try to get as many of those leaves
> as possible before I collapse at the end of the day.
>
> This concept has driven me for more than 22 years now.
> My dad said I was a dinosaur.
>
I think it's merely a matter of knowing what you enjoy and what your goals
*are*, than it is of being a "dinosaur".
Heck, if I lived near my Aunt and cousins, I'd prob be over there diggin in
their yards as well as my own, because then I'd also have *their* $$ to
spend on creating gardens and making garden stuff. I'm not a "people
person" - mostly, I find people to be aggravtions, PITAs, and rocks that
need to be picked out of the yard, but I like to be outside fooling with
plants for hours on end, or reading about botany and local climate and
landscaping - or designing on papaer and/or 3D - and so on.
It's all a matter of what you enjoy and what your goals are.
My goal is to have time (etc.) to make stuff <LOL!>
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Posted by Warm Worm on May 20, 2006, 1:57 am
"Don"
> "Kris Krieger"
>> The other thing is that, when you use recycled materials, the cost is
>> usually minimal - and often, nothing more than a matter of your time in
>> making it. The main enjoyment is in the doing. So, if you decide you
>> don't like it, or get tired of it, it's no huge loss to remove it.
>
> Now this is the thing that has always bothered me when I see it, and I see
> it frequently.
> Maybe its different for self employed people than employees.
>
> My time is the most valuable thing I own.
> If I am sitting at my desk doing work I am earning a minimal $50 and hour.
> If I ain't, I ain't.
> So when you say '...the cost is usually minimal....nothing more than a
> matter of your time...' I see this from a whole nuther perspective.
>
> Take zenbooms divider, if it takes 8 hours to do it, then my time/cost is
> at least $400.00 (8x $50/hr).
> Now weigh that against simply buying a divider for $400 and be done with
> it.
Do you get a Home Depot divider or hand-create a one-of-a-kind piece and
recycle to boot?
Does your home feel like a home, or some kind of department store showroom?
> The fulcrum in all of this is the part where you mention '...the enjoyment
> is in the doing...'.
> Of all the things one could be doing when NOT working one must decide if
> building the divider, or anything else, is worth what the cost, in time,
> is.
I guess it depends on what you enjoy doing, what you value, etc., and of
course sometimes the mere act of making money from something enjoyable can
diminish its enjoyment.
> Earl Nightingale said, all of your time is divieded into 2 groups.
> 1) Goal achieving.
> 2) Tension relieving.
>
> Clement Stone said that 1 should consist of 80% or more of your waking
> hours.
>
> Zig Ziglar said that life is a big tree in your front yard that has leaves
> that are $100 bills.
What does Don say that is unique to him?
> I want to get up early everyday and try to get as many of those leaves as
> possible before I collapse at the end of the day.
Are you sure?
> This concept has driven me for more than 22 years now.
> My dad said I was a dinosaur.
What did he mean by that?
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Posted by Warm Worm on May 18, 2006, 4:27 pm
R'zenboom wrote:
>>>> We had an architect neighbor back in the 70's who made all his
>>>> furniture from sonotubes. Damn it was uncomfortable!
>>>>
>>> Makes me think of this:
>>> http://www.bubblefurniture.com/
>>>
>>> I've tried them in a showroom once and they were remarkably
>>> comfortable and cheap, *and* of course easy to move. Just deflate and
>>> roll up. Damn cool if you're a starving/travelling artist, designer,
>>> student, whomever, and want to furnish a stylish pad on the fly. Got a
>>> laptop as an entertainment hub, and you go to a local garage sale for
>>> dishes, cutlery and fabric for curtains, and you're set!
>>>
>>>
>> Not a bad idea for someone who might only have occasional parties/guests,
<rolls eyes>
Well how many bloody parties and guests do you have or need?
If you want to run a freaking motel, then no, bubble furniture is
probably not the way to go.
<Bops Kris with a bubble couch>
Bubblefight!!
;D
>> either - don't have to have a lot of permanent furniture that seldom gets
>> used.
>>
>> Heck, throw a slipcover over it, and who'd know it from "real" furniture?
>> It'd sure make frequent moves a lot easier <g!>
>>
>> Only, I don't see any inflatable bookcases or chests... =:-o
>
>
>
> I like that! Anyone got other ideas on furnishing, say, a bachelor pad with
> minimal or 'repurposed' or recycled or 'outdoor' or [ ] pieces? I'm planning
> a room-divider of print roll tubes - what ya think?!
Anything's possible in design.
If you have an idea, and want to try it, then do so.
I'm going out for a tea in the sun now, but might get back to this.
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Posted by Kris Krieger on May 19, 2006, 8:05 pm
> R'zenboom wrote:
>>>>> We had an architect neighbor back in the 70's who made all his
>>>>> furniture from sonotubes. Damn it was uncomfortable!
> >>>>
>>>> Makes me think of this:
>>>> http://www.bubblefurniture.com/
>>>>
>>>> I've tried them in a showroom once and they were remarkably
>>>> comfortable and cheap, *and* of course easy to move. Just deflate
>>>> and roll up. Damn cool if you're a starving/travelling artist,
>>>> designer, student, whomever, and want to furnish a stylish pad on
>>>> the fly. Got a laptop as an entertainment hub, and you go to a
>>>> local garage sale for dishes, cutlery and fabric for curtains, and
>>>> you're set!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Not a bad idea for someone who might only have occasional
>>> parties/guests,
>
> <rolls eyes>
> Well how many bloody parties and guests do you have or need?
> If you want to run a freaking motel, then no, bubble furniture is
> probably not the way to go.
Not me, the OP.
I'm antisocial and very private in real life. If people don't call first
(assuing I feel like answering the phone), I don't feel obligated to open
the door if they "just come over". I almost never invite people over, for
various reasons.
> <Bops Kris with a bubble couch>
Hmmmm, there's a lot of Kris Bopping going on today... =:-o
>
> Bubblefight!!
>
> ;D
*>POP!!!<*
Kris' silver Exacto knife =8-O
(not the same ring as Maxwell's silver hammer, but Oh Well...)
>
>>> either - don't have to have a lot of permanent furniture that seldom
>>> gets used.
>>>
>>> Heck, throw a slipcover over it, and who'd know it from "real"
>>> furniture? It'd sure make frequent moves a lot easier <g!>
>>>
>>> Only, I don't see any inflatable bookcases or chests... =:-o
>>
>>
>>
>> I like that! Anyone got other ideas on furnishing, say, a bachelor
>> pad with minimal or 'repurposed' or recycled or 'outdoor' or [ ]
>> pieces? I'm planning a room-divider of print roll tubes - what ya
>> think?!
>
> Anything's possible in design.
> If you have an idea, and want to try it, then do so.
>
> I'm going out for a tea in the sun now, but might get back to this.
>
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Posted by on May 18, 2006, 5:15 pm
>
>I like that! Anyone got other ideas on furnishing, say, a bachelor pad with
>minimal or 'repurposed' or recycled or 'outdoor' or [ ] pieces? I'm planning
>a room-divider of print roll tubes - what ya think?!
Great thread here
Not necessarily cheap but I've been thinking abt making
a bed out of scaffolding
Easy to dissemble and move and very strong. could be
used for other things as well as bed
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