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Posted by cunnignham on February 16, 2007, 9:48 am
gruhn@rararchitects.com opined thusly:
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>> liked - it won an award
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>What award? What manner of judges? So what?
The relevance is that is its effect on how much he thinks he can charge. But
since you ask, the judges were the panel of the national association.
>> design isn't suitable for my purposes
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>This is a telling phrase. It means you don't really know what an
>architect is for.
No, it shows that you aren't thinking outside of your own head. The award
winning design was for a 1BR weekend retreat. I want a city home.
>> I gave him the dream brief
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>Whose dream?
Most architects, I assume, like a client who gives them a concise
summary of the accomodation they need, complete creative control, has a
realistic budget for the project, and says "design me something so radical it
wins an award'. Beats designing public housing for the council I'm sure.
>> I want a house that might win an award.
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>Why?
Because if he designs me anything like what I see being built in this city it
will be more of the same old crap and sure as hell wouldn't win any award. I
don't care if it wins one or not.
>> I tend to think he's gone for the jugular because I flattered him for his
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>I don't.
But you don't say why. It seems logical to me. Someone calls you cold and
says "I saw your award winning design, I love it, I want you to design my
house". You aren't going to be shy on your pricing. Hell I wouldn't be, and
architects have egos.
>> He has a few other designs on his resume
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>Of course.
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>> (he's probably been practising about 10 years)
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>And you wouldn't have been surprised if he hadn't actually done any
>work in that time?
That was not my implication. I was actually hoping to see more than "a few".
>> [other guy]
>> He's competent but his designs aren't outstanding
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>1 - of course
>2 - how do you know?
You are trying to tell me I'm an idiot. His designs look like everyone
else's and don't have any natty features that make me go "oh that's cool".
Ergo by definition they aren't outstanding.
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>> Would I insult him by querying the rate?
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>This isn't a cotillion. Who gives a fuck.
Just establishing etiquette. You're very aggressive. Are you an architect?
Not mine I hope.
>> If I pay him $5K for concepts but go no further,
>> am I entitled to put his best ideas forward to the architect I eventually
>> go with?
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>Read the contract.
See above.
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