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how would I get a design for this? Rick 10-29-2007
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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on October 30, 2007, 4:22 pm

>
>
> Michael Bulatovich wrote:
>
>>"
>>
>>>>I am guessing if I had to get this designed from scratch it would be
>>>>many tens of thousands of dollars? I am hoping that maybe someone
>>>>already has a similar plan done that could be purchased for somewhat
>>>>less.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>You do not want to short change yourself on using an architect because
>>>that plan will be site specific, take into consideration your personal
>>>tastes and needs (For example, I have a proprietory method for extracting
>>>design specific issues that takes into consideration things you might
>>>never thought of before a line gets drawn or an item gets speced.), use
>>>today's technology as well as replica or salvaged historic materials, be
>>>environmentally safer than the original and allow you to lead a normal
>>>life and/or family life within it and have a flexible enough design that
>>>some spaces can potentially fulfill various frunctions or needs - all
>>>while meeting local and other applicable codes and standards
>>>
>>
>>Sarcasm, Galina?
>
> Yes and no, It is absurd that people willing to spend a couple hundred
> thou plus on a house or office building or whatever assume they can just
> forego the normal design process and actually come ontoa newsgroup of
> mostly professionals and ask how they can cheap out. I figure different
> people on the newsgroup could take turns stating the obvious once in a
> while. Figured it was my turn. Of course, I coulda spelled checked for
> the typos, but then, for someone who wants to cheap out on an
> architect.....

On behalf of the group, I salute you!



Posted by Rick on October 30, 2007, 11:22 pm

> Have any of you come across plans or know where I could start searching
> for plans for a house very close to this:
>
> http://imgsx.writing.com/main/images/action/display/item_id/1169375.jpg
>
> The style is victorian/second empire. I would want the house to be around
> 2800 to 3600 sq-ft total.
>
> I am guessing if I had to get this designed from scratch it would be many
> tens of thousands of dollars? I am hoping that maybe someone already has
> a similar plan done that could be purchased for somewhat less.
>
> Thanks
>

I really should have been a little clearer. We plan to be on site during
construction and do most of the finish and detail work ourselves. I don't
know how this would fit in with the normal 10% to 15% fee that an architect
needs for a new design.



Posted by 3D Peruna on October 31, 2007, 9:00 am
Rick wrote:

> I really should have been a little clearer. We plan to be on site during
> construction and do most of the finish and detail work ourselves. I don't
> know how this would fit in with the normal 10% to 15% fee that an architect
> needs for a new design.

What you pay for isn't just drawings. It's the experience that goes
along with those drawings. Knowing which details go where. And, here's
the kicker, knowing how to design and detail so that the various
elements can withstand the ravages of mother nature. It's the
experience knowing to properly proportion the various elements. It's
the ability to give you the feel of an historic style with the elements
required for a 21st century lifestyle (you're not going to have a parlor
, a sitting room, the kitchen for servants only, right?).

And...for the record, I'd love to get 15% for a fee. But in our neck of
the woods it doesn't happen. If you want custom design, find somebody
who has experience in that kind of design.

Put yourself in your own clients shoes... if somebody wanted you to
design something very unique, detailed and intricate, how much would you
charge?


Posted by Michael Bulatovich on October 31, 2007, 9:54 am

> And...for the record, I'd love to get 15% for a fee. But in our neck of
> the woods it doesn't happen.

In TO the top (couple of) dogs can get it once in a while, after of years of
establishing their "brand."
--


MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca



Posted by Edgar on October 31, 2007, 11:21 am
> Rick wrote:
>
>> I really should have been a little clearer. We plan to be on site during
>> construction and do most of the finish and detail work ourselves. I
>> don't know how this would fit in with the normal 10% to 15% fee that an
>> architect needs for a new design.
>
> What you pay for isn't just drawings. It's the experience that goes along
> with those drawings. Knowing which details go where. And, here's the
> kicker, knowing how to design and detail so that the various elements can
> withstand the ravages of mother nature. It's the experience knowing to
> properly proportion the various elements. It's the ability to give you
> the feel of an historic style with the elements required for a 21st
> century lifestyle (you're not going to have a parlor , a sitting room, the
> kitchen for servants only, right?).
>
> And...for the record, I'd love to get 15% for a fee. But in our neck of
> the woods it doesn't happen. If you want custom design, find somebody who
> has experience in that kind of design.
>
> Put yourself in your own clients shoes... if somebody wanted you to design
> something very unique, detailed and intricate, how much would you charge?
>

Using his analogy, if a client wanted you to design a supercomputer to do a
very specific task, would you still send them to Costco or Dell (and I put
together computers myself, I would never send someone to either of those
places). If you want a Dell for a house, I am sure there is plenty of tract
housing where you live, go buy one of those.

--
Edgar



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