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Posted by Edgar on October 31, 2007, 2:19 pm
>> Using his analogy, if a client wanted you to design a supercomputer to do
>> a very specific task, would you still send them to Costco or Dell (and I
>> put together computers myself, I would never send someone to either of
>> those places). If you want a Dell for a house, I am sure there is plenty
>> of tract housing where you live, go buy one of those.
>>
>> --
>> Edgar
>
> Ah, so you put together computers yourself and yet are an architect? How
> dare I try and put together building plans as a EE!
>
> I don't want some portfolio carrying architect designing me some artsy
> fartsy new age block house with stainless steel toilets. I want to take
> an existing design from the late 19th century and modify it a bit,
> bringing it up to today's standards in safety and building materials.
> This is the part I figured I would need to pay an architect to help out
> with. I realize they have experience calculating loads for modern
> construction materials and the epensive software to assist them in doing
> this. I could probably learn all of this myself but I doubt it would be
> worth my time unless I really got into it and enjoyed it.
>
> So what I was asking for was a copy of existing plans that might have been
> drawn up 30, 50 or even 100 years ago. I didn't really know where to find
> such plans..most of the online plan sites you detest so much steer more
> toward modern practical cookie cutter houses.
>
> Anyway, obviously I am not going to get any ideas or help from this
> newsgroup so sorry to bother you and hope you had a good flame fest.
>
> cheers
>
I almost said I build computers, but it wouldn't really be the truth. I
said I put together, practically cobble them together from off the shelf
parts, I do no engineering whatsoever, and never claimed I did. I respect
what our consultants do, but most of the time they have little respect for
what we do.
As for the architect, you are HIS client, if he is not going to give you
what you want, then take your money elsewhere. If you are clear and concise
about what you want, and it sounds like you have a good idea of what you
want, then he will tell you up front if he will do it or not. On top of
that there are architects that specialize in this sort of thing that would
give you exactly what you want, AND make it to modern codes (not 50 or 100
year old codes). And yes you are overestimating what we make.
Again your analogy to a computer is weak, and I just pointed it out for you.
A house is much more than just a sum of parts, the computers I put together
are nothing more than parts any guy with some info can put together, which
is why I can do it, but I can't for the life of me put together a rickety
old chair. You are comparing apples to oranges. One simple example for
you, the plans you will buy pre-made will have no bearing whatsoever to the
site, climate, and local codes of your property.
Like others have said, we are being honest and trying to be helpful, but you
are taking it as an insult, while at the same time you come in here and
reduce OUR profession to nothing more than a google search (which if you
would have done one you could have just simply avoided all this mess in the
first place). Take the advice as you will, but just remember us when you
need to find an architect to modify your perfect plans.
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Edgar
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