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Posted by Michael Bulatovich on November 1, 2007, 4:12 pm
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>>>>>>>> Pierre Levesque wrote:
>>>>>>>>> After years and years...
>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zvryq
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess being an Architectural Record house helps...
>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/3ylo5j
>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2pcbup
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More online publications coming soon, a nice write-up just done in
>>>>>>>>> ArchitectNewspaper issue 18 (paper issue out now, online to come)
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where's your credit? No serious pictures.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've got mixed emotions about it... It's cool because they
>>>>>>>> actually built it. I'm a fan of "modern" architecture, but I've
>>>>>>>> long since ceased to be a fan of the object in space called
>>>>>>>> architecture. To me, there's too little human in it. It's just
>>>>>>>> geometric sculpture.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Congrats anyway...as much as we can give you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being the PA and doing CM work for the GC won't get much credit.
>>>>>>> Specially when the GC isn't listed. Didn't you notice that it's
>>>>>>> all Van Berkel, Van Berkel, Van Berkel in the PR?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you think you get to be a Van Berkel?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like a joke setup... OK I'll bite... I dunno, how DO you get
>>>>> to be a Van Berkel?
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise, the formula is simple really.
>>>>>
>>>>> By being enthralled with and talking a lot of BS on theory and
>>>>> architectonics, schmoozing with architecture rag publishers in social
>>>>> circles, spending a lot of time hanging around with the "right crowd"
>>>>> in museums and conferences, teaching at the university, authoring
>>>>> books, getting on the lecture circuit, opening a "high end" design
>>>>> firm using only unpaid interns, hiring only "star" students from your
>>>>> university, spending a couple years only designing theoritical unbuilt
>>>>> projects and entering and winning or doing well in design competitions
>>>>> and waiting for that one client to finally take a bite of the worm on
>>>>> the end of your line. And most importantly, having tons and tons of
>>>>> cash to be able to afford doing all of that so as to "tie you over"
>>>>> until you can become a star architect.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do all of the above you can get published in about 5 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Easy right? Now get to it!
>>>>
>>>> That was going to be my advice to you, Pierre.
>>>
>>> What the hell is that supposed to mean? I didn't hobnob enough to get a
>>> listing in a NY Times article? Gimme a break.
>>>
>>> Mike, I don't need your advice frankly. If I wanted to get into details
>>> for what my agreement was, what credit I was to get etc, I'd have posted
>>> and done that a long time ago. I posted because a lot of people in this
>>> NG were interested in this project as it developed over the past 4
>>> years.
>>>
>>> A little history: I met with the owner (BTW it was at one of those
>>> "right crowd" situations at MOMA) in 2001 and was introduced to the
>>> designer's US representative shortly after that. I introduced these
>>> folks to my friend (the GC) and played "the game" to the best of my
>>> ability. I convinced them that my friend was the right guy for the job.
>>> Shortly afterwards it was determined that I would provide the owner a
>>> separate CM agreement. I coordinated the construction documents and
>>> prepared the bid package to negotiate a contract between the owner and
>>> GC. Things went well with all the negotiations and preparations to get
>>> the job started. The construction contract was executed and for whatever
>>> reason, the owner preferred that I just work "on the contractor's side"
>>> to make sure the job gets detailed that way it was supposed to be. I
>>> said OK and our agreement was superceded. The only stipulation was that
>>> I would get CM credit "if" the project were to be published.
>>>
>>> Somewhere along the line (not too suprisingly) the GC and owner had
>>> problems over change orders etc since the architect's office didn't have
>>> experience with US methods. The relationship got strained though as you
>>> can see it got built as detailed. And quite well. Very fine work.
>>> Unfortunately, the strained relationship led to the GC (and me in
>>> effect) to only being listed in "less important" publications.
>>>
>>> No big deal frankly. I have received credit in several of these "less
>>> important" publications. It's not going to prevent me from showing the
>>> project to interested people. and I couldn't care less about becoming
>>> Van Berkel.
>>>
>>> The job is done and I was involved in another fancy swanky design
>>> project. Who cares. It was a nice gig, it provides something to show
>>> and I'm quite proud of having had a hand in the execution of it. Is
>>> that so wrong?
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>> I'm afraid I should have used a smiley. You took me seriously.
>
> Maybe so but I don't think you were having around alt.architecture when
> this project started so I guess I was just bringing you up to speed on the
> history...
>
> Does this NG qualify as "hanging around with the right crowd" on the list
> 'how-to' of how to be a Van Berkel? ;-P
You know the answer to that question, Pierre.
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