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400A resedential service Bill 08-23-2008
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Posted by Bill on October 12, 2008, 3:03 pm



> Could be that the well will consume more watts at 110v because of a long
> run
> from the meter to the pump resulting in a voltage drop and therefore the
> pump will be running less efficient than it could.
> I agree however that a larger service panel will do nothing to solve this
> problem.
> --
> Roger Shoaf

Pump is already 220v.
I gave up on this idea when so many more knowledgeable pointed out how
stupid I was.



Posted by Matt Whiting on August 24, 2008, 3:23 pm


Bill wrote:
> A/C is another story. I have two, a 3ton (10 years old), and a 4ton (five
> years old).
> I looked at replacing them, and that is on my todo list.
>
> Not so much when the A/C kicks on, but when my well pump kicks on, my lights
> dim.
>
> I wanted the second panel to balance my load requirements.
>
> Pump was wired for 110, and it draws 12A. Hook it up to 220, and it drops to
> 5A.
>
> Less Amperage is less draw on my spinning meter.

The meter measures power, not current. It doesn't matter whether you
draw 12A @ 110V or 6A @ 220V (your 5A at 220 isn't correct), you will
pay the same price.

Matt

Posted by Erik Dillenkofer on August 24, 2008, 4:32 pm


Exactly.

Watts = Volts X Amps

120 V X 10 A = 1200 watts
240 V X 5 A = 1200 watts

And the power company bills for kilowatthours ... 1000 watts consumed for
one hour = 1 kwh

That why the electric meter is called a "watthour" meter.

Here's a scenario maybe even the OP will understand. Suppose a car gets 15
MPG and has a 20 gallon gas tank. Will replacing the 20 gallon tank with a
40 gallon tank reduce what the driver spends on fuel each week? No - because
the car still gets 15 MPG. That's exactly what he's proposing by upgrading
the service to 400 amps ... it won't make ANY difference on the monthly
bill.


> Bill wrote:
>> A/C is another story. I have two, a 3ton (10 years old), and a 4ton (five
>> years old).
>> I looked at replacing them, and that is on my todo list.
>> Not so much when the A/C kicks on, but when my well pump kicks on, my
>> lights dim.
>> I wanted the second panel to balance my load requirements.
>> Pump was wired for 110, and it draws 12A. Hook it up to 220, and it drops
>> to 5A.
>> Less Amperage is less draw on my spinning meter.
> The meter measures power, not current. It doesn't matter whether you draw
> 12A @ 110V or 6A @ 220V (your 5A at 220 isn't correct), you will pay the
> same price.
> Matt



Posted by Stan Brown on August 24, 2008, 9:30 am


> I am still wanting to put 400A service to my house, to try to cut on my
> electric bill. ($565.00 last month).

How will increasing to 400-amp service cut your electric bill? You
pay by the kilowatt hour, don't you?

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

Posted by dpb on August 24, 2008, 9:57 am


Stan Brown wrote:
>> I am still wanting to put 400A service to my house, to try to cut on my
>> electric bill. ($565.00 last month).
>
> How will increasing to 400-amp service cut your electric bill? You
> pay by the kilowatt hour, don't you?

It won't (as you know, OP doesn't understand)...

If you read the rest of the post, he's under the delusion that
converting his well pump to 220V from 110V will, by cutting amperage,
halve is bill for it... :(

--

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