A Liquid Shower Pan?

Posted by Don on August 30, 2007, 10:57 pm

> alt.building.construction:

>> "CWatters"> wrote

>>> "Don"> wrote
>>>> Someone was telling me about a liquid rubber shower pan that you
>>>> apply with a paint roller, but couldn't remember the name, anybody
>>>> heard of it or know an online link? I got the impression it was
>>>> sort of like that can of liquid material you dip pliers handles in.
>>>> Thanks.
>>> I can't imagine the results are very attractive. What do you want it
>>> for?

>> Doesn't matter how it looks cause it won't be seen when the job is
>> done, just like a regular shower pan. I want it for, uh, a shower
>> pan, that goes from floor to ceiling, then it will be covered in
>> tile.

>>> There are some very shallow resin shower trays around now and there
>>> are liners for use under tiles in wetrooms.

>> Been there, done that, will do it again if I have to.
>> I heard about this other stuff, Redgard, and thought I'd check into
>> it. Back to the original question, have you ever heard of it
>> (Redgard, or comparable) or know anything about it?

> I've used Redgard under tile floors to seal cracks. That's an intended
> use. I roll it on with a foam roller, about a foot on either side of the
> crack. It makes a thin film that will seal moisture coming through the
> crack from the ground below.
> I don't think it will make a heavy enough barrier to use as a shower pan
> unless you put on many, many coats. If you do that, it might no longer
> work as intended.
> Get a PVC liner from the hardware store that's intended for the purpose.
> It will definitely perform properly. You can get some extra and run it
> up the wall, though you'll have an issue with the joints.
> --
> Steve B.
> New Life Home Improvement

Been reading a forum about the Redgard where people have applied 3 coats of
the stuff as a shower pan and they've indicated its pretty expensive.
I'll have to check it out at Home Depot the next time I'm there.
In my last house in FL I bought a roll of pan material that was 4' wide x
25' long and that may be what I end up doing this time as well.

Posted by CWatters on August 31, 2007, 5:46 pm

> "CWatters"> wrote

> > I can't imagine the results are very attractive. What do you want it

for?

> Doesn't matter how it looks cause it won't be seen when the job is done,
> just like a regular shower pan.

Ah sorry, here in the UK that would be called tanking.

> I want it for, uh, a shower pan, that goes from floor to ceiling, then it
> will be covered in tile.

> > There are some very shallow resin shower trays around now and there are
> > liners for use under tiles in wetrooms.

> Been there, done that, will do it again if I have to.
> I heard about this other stuff, Redgard, and thought I'd check into it.
> Back to the original question, have you ever heard of it (Redgard, or
> comparable) or know anything about it?

Only what I've just read on the web...(pdf)..

http://www.custombuildingproducts.com/docs/data_sheets/DS109%204-04R.pdf?user=pro&lang=en

Posted by HerHusband on September 1, 2007, 12:24 pm

Don,

> Someone was telling me about a liquid rubber shower pan that you apply
> with a paint roller, but couldn't remember the name, anybody heard of
> it or know an online link?

Probably Redguard. I saw it at my local Home Depot the other day.

Personally, I wouldn't rely on it as a shower pan. Even if it works to
waterproof the pan, I think you would run into problems where the drain
connects.

I used Schluter Kerdi on our 6'x6' tile shower. It's great stuff. You
install your backerboard and mud bed, apply the Kerdi, and tile right over
it. They even have a special drain that's made to work with the Kerdi
system.

Kerdi is nice because you only need a single mud bed, instead of two like
you would do with a vinyl liner.

It's a little expensive, but worth it in my opinion. It puts the
waterproofing right under the tile, rather than underneath the second mud
bed.

You might want to stop by the www.johnbridge.com tile forum. Lots of folks
there use Kerdi and could give you tips and advice.

As for the backerboard, I used Hardibacker. It comes in 3'x5' sheets, cuts
easily, and is lighter than durock.

Anthony

Posted by Don on September 5, 2007, 8:56 pm

> Don,

>> Someone was telling me about a liquid rubber shower pan that you apply
>> with a paint roller, but couldn't remember the name, anybody heard of
>> it or know an online link?

> Probably Redguard. I saw it at my local Home Depot the other day.
> Personally, I wouldn't rely on it as a shower pan. Even if it works to
> waterproof the pan, I think you would run into problems where the drain
> connects.
> I used Schluter Kerdi on our 6'x6' tile shower. It's great stuff. You
> install your backerboard and mud bed, apply the Kerdi, and tile right over
> it. They even have a special drain that's made to work with the Kerdi
> system.
> Kerdi is nice because you only need a single mud bed, instead of two like
> you would do with a vinyl liner.
> It's a little expensive, but worth it in my opinion. It puts the
> waterproofing right under the tile, rather than underneath the second mud
> bed.
> You might want to stop by the www.johnbridge.com tile forum. Lots of folks
> there use Kerdi and could give you tips and advice.
> As for the backerboard, I used Hardibacker. It comes in 3'x5' sheets, cuts
> easily, and is lighter than durock.
> Anthony

Cool, I'll check it all out. Thanks.

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