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Any tech's here? Glenn 12-15-2007
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Posted by Glenn on December 15, 2007, 3:01 pm
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We had freezing rain for a couple days and our juice went out. This =
time, only 9 hours for us. Across the street, they were off for 35 =
hours. The last time I used the generator, I ran it for 7 days to the =
hour.

I have a generator (5000 watt) out in the shop that I can tie into the =
240 V main panel via a back feed from the shop through the welder =
breaker. I trip the main 200 amp breaker in from the pole so as to not =
feed the whole neighborhood or knock some lineman off a pole and that =
makes my whole panel hot. No, there's not enough juice to run =
everything at once but I can light any light in the house or run TV etc. =
You just need to be a little discriminatory as to how much you turn on =
at once. Example running the microwave, I reached over and turned the =
crock pot off.

Finally I'm getting to the question. Does anyone know how critical =
cycling is? My clocks gained a little over 2 min during the 9 hour run =
so the cycle must be a little fast. Maybe 61 cycle? How critical is =
that for something as fussy as a computer for example?


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Posted by Chas Hurst on December 15, 2007, 3:07 pm

We had freezing rain for a couple days and our juice went out. This time,
only 9 hours for us. Across the street, they were off for 35 hours. The
last time I used the generator, I ran it for 7 days to the hour.

I have a generator (5000 watt) out in the shop that I can tie into the 240 V
main panel via a back feed from the shop through the welder breaker. I trip
the main 200 amp breaker in from the pole so as to not feed the whole
neighborhood or knock some lineman off a pole and that makes my whole panel
hot. No, there's not enough juice to run everything at once but I can light
any light in the house or run TV etc. You just need to be a little
discriminatory as to how much you turn on at once. Example running the
microwave, I reached over and turned the crock pot off.

Finally I'm getting to the question. Does anyone know how critical cycling
is? My clocks gained a little over 2 min during the 9 hour run so the cycle
must be a little fast. Maybe 61 cycle? How critical is that for something
as fussy as a computer for example?"

Most if not all electronics run on DC. Other than a clock, most other
electical devices are resistance type-light bilbs and crock pots- that are
not sensitive to cyclic rate. I run my generator the same way as you,
plugging into a 50 amp welder receptacle in my barn. I have a 4500 watt unit
and it will run the house as normal except I turn off the electric water
heater.



Posted by Glenn on December 15, 2007, 3:38 pm

>
> Finally I'm getting to the question. Does anyone
> know how critical cycling is? My clocks gained a
> little over 2 min during the 9 hour run so the cycle
> must be a little fast. Maybe 61 cycle? How critical
> is that for something as fussy as a computer for
> example?"
>
> Most if not all electronics run on DC. Other than a
> clock, most other electical devices are resistance
> type-light bilbs and crock pots- that are not
> sensitive to cyclic rate. I run my generator the same
> way as you, plugging into a 50 amp welder receptacle
> in my barn. I have a 4500 watt unit and it will run
> the house as normal except I turn off the electric
> water heater.
Thanks, I needed a conformation on that. That's what I
understood.


Posted by Chas Hurst on December 15, 2007, 6:47 pm

>
>>
>> Finally I'm getting to the question. Does anyone know how critical
>> cycling is? My clocks gained a little over 2 min during the 9 hour run
>> so the cycle must be a little fast. Maybe 61 cycle? How critical is
>> that for something as fussy as a computer for example?"
>>
>> Most if not all electronics run on DC. Other than a clock, most other
>> electical devices are resistance type-light bilbs and crock pots- that
>> are not sensitive to cyclic rate. I run my generator the same way as you,
>> plugging into a 50 amp welder receptacle in my barn. I have a 4500 watt
>> unit and it will run the house as normal except I turn off the electric
>> water heater.
> Thanks, I needed a conformation on that. That's what I understood.

Your welcome. Get ready for the busybodies to chime in.



Posted by PeterD on December 15, 2007, 3:55 pm

> Does anyone know how critical cycling is?

Not terribly critical, but...

Your process is a major code violation, and a major safety hazard. I'd
recommend a proper switchover box, if the power company finds you
doing what you have been, they will pull your meter in a flash.



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