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Best wall construction to stop a truck. Alan 03-05-2007
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Posted by Lou on March 7, 2007, 8:57 am


>
> It sounds like you're talking about a new, *reinforced* wall.
>


You may want to go the other direction. Instead of a barracade, how
about something like a replaceable flag?
did down to insert a pipe, say 1", then cut off the pipe even with the
ground level. Insert a 3/4" fiberglass rod with a flag (maybe your
favorite sports, or country) so when someone does hit it, (slowely
backing up) the fiberglass will bend, and make a sound against the
car. You may
have to replace the fiberglass but I'll bet it's a whole lot cheaper,
easier, and less law suit happy.
Lou





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Posted by George on March 6, 2007, 3:05 pm
John Reddy wrote:
> I believe such posts are called bollards. They are quite effective as
> the poster who noted that they are located at the ends of gas pump
> islands pointed out.
>
> A few years ago, we had kids in the area who were getting their kicks
> from knocking down mailboxes with their cars. At my suggestion, my
> neighbor constructed a bollard with 6 inch concrete-filled pipe and then
> boxed it out with 1x pine and sat his mailbox atop the structure.
>
> The result could not have been better. The little assholes hit it and
> demolished their car to the point where they couldn't even move it.
> When the cops showed up, the kids swore they accidentally drifted off
> the road and clipped the mailbox. The other four smashed mailboxes on
> the street were a little tougher for them to explain. It was a great
> night..... Old fart homeowners 1, punk kids 0.

I agree with the outcome but all the parents of the little sweetheart
kids have to do is to call one of the many personal injury attorneys
with the big billboard next to the highway or their picture on the city
buses and they will have to open their wallets. A buddy of mine was sick
of his mail box being knocked down and did a similar "reinforcement".
The kids in his area would drive around with a bat or pipe and hit the
mailboxes. The kid got hurt and even though he was the one who was
destroying the property of others he got a sizable award.

Posted by The Other Funk on March 6, 2007, 3:49 pm
Finding the keyboard operational
George entered:

> John Reddy wrote:
>> I believe such posts are called bollards. They are quite
>> effective as the poster who noted that they are located at the ends
>> of gas pump islands pointed out.
>>
>> A few years ago, we had kids in the area who were getting their kicks
>> from knocking down mailboxes with their cars. At my suggestion, my
>> neighbor constructed a bollard with 6 inch concrete-filled pipe and
>> then boxed it out with 1x pine and sat his mailbox atop the
>> structure. The result could not have been better. The little assholes
>> hit it
>> and demolished their car to the point where they couldn't even move
>> it. When the cops showed up, the kids swore they accidentally
>> drifted off the road and clipped the mailbox. The other four
>> smashed mailboxes on the street were a little tougher for them to
>> explain. It was a great night..... Old fart homeowners 1, punk
>> kids 0.
>
> I agree with the outcome but all the parents of the little sweetheart
> kids have to do is to call one of the many personal injury attorneys
> with the big billboard next to the highway or their picture on the
> city buses and they will have to open their wallets. A buddy of mine
> was sick of his mail box being knocked down and did a similar
> "reinforcement". The kids in his area would drive around with a bat
> or pipe and hit the mailboxes. The kid got hurt and even though he
> was the one who was destroying the property of others he got a
> sizable award.

The laws must vary widely on this subject. You would have a hard time
finding a lawyer to take such a case in NJ. Smacking a mailbox on a post
usually gets a destruction of property and a reckless driviung charge unless
one of the actors has a history. Then it might get bumped up to a federal
offence of interfering with the mail. Judges take a very dim view of
criminals sueing for injuries they got while commiting a crime.
Bob

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Posted by George on March 7, 2007, 10:47 am
The Other Funk wrote:

> The laws must vary widely on this subject. You would have a hard time
> finding a lawyer to take such a case in NJ. Smacking a mailbox on a post
> usually gets a destruction of property and a reckless driviung charge
> unless one of the actors has a history. Then it might get bumped up to a
> federal offence of interfering with the mail. Judges take a very dim
> view of criminals sueing for injuries they got while commiting a crime.
> Bob
>
> --
> --
> Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
> www.moondoggiecoffee.com
>

But there are plenty of cases of criminals suing in such cases. I
recently read where a burglar cut himself on glass that he had broken
while "on the job" and he sued and got an award.

I doubt Jersey is different than other states. There are plenty of
lawyers who want to transfer wealth to themselves and will take any case
as long as they can find deep pockets associated.

Sometimes you just have to shake your head when you see what lawyers
will do. My friend had a car for his daughter to use while she was at
college. She graduated and got a job. My friend would sometimes use the
car and one day the transmission died. A towing service picked it and
they said that periodically a metal salvage company picks up cars and if
he gives them the title they would have the car disposed of. He
transfered the title by signing the area that notifies the state that
the car is being junked.

The towing company decided to repair the car and falsified the title to
change it from junk to a transfer and let a young family member use the
car. The family member and friend were drinking and using drugs and the
car caught fire and the occupants died. Two months later my friend was
served with a lawsuit claiming he was negligent because he didn't keep
the car in proper repair. They also sued manufacturers of parts that
were used in the car. It cost my friend over $250,000 for the reward and
to pay the lawyers he had to hire.

Posted by The Other Funk on March 7, 2007, 1:05 pm
Finding the keyboard operational
George entered:

> The Other Funk wrote:
>
>> The laws must vary widely on this subject. You would have a hard time
>> finding a lawyer to take such a case in NJ. Smacking a mailbox on a
>> post usually gets a destruction of property and a reckless driviung
>> charge unless one of the actors has a history. Then it might get
>> bumped up to a federal offence of interfering with the mail. Judges
>> take a very dim view of criminals sueing for injuries they got while
>> commiting a crime. Bob
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
>> www.moondoggiecoffee.com
>>
>
> But there are plenty of cases of criminals suing in such cases. I
> recently read where a burglar cut himself on glass that he had broken
> while "on the job" and he sued and got an award.
>
> I doubt Jersey is different than other states. There are plenty of
> lawyers who want to transfer wealth to themselves and will take any
> case as long as they can find deep pockets associated.
>
> Sometimes you just have to shake your head when you see what lawyers
> will do. My friend had a car for his daughter to use while she was at
> college. She graduated and got a job. My friend would sometimes use
> the car and one day the transmission died. A towing service picked it
> and they said that periodically a metal salvage company picks up cars
> and if he gives them the title they would have the car disposed of. He
> transfered the title by signing the area that notifies the state that
> the car is being junked.
>
> The towing company decided to repair the car and falsified the title
> to change it from junk to a transfer and let a young family member
> use the car. The family member and friend were drinking and using
> drugs and the car caught fire and the occupants died. Two months
> later my friend was served with a lawsuit claiming he was negligent
> because he didn't keep the car in proper repair. They also sued
> manufacturers of parts that were used in the car. It cost my friend
> over $250,000 for the reward and to pay the lawyers he had to hire.
I don't know exactly why we don't have a lot of ths kind of suit here but I
know a lot of civil trials are in front of a jury. I think (or hope) that a
number of jurors are of the mindset of "You have got to be kidding me".
I think it's criminal that your friend even had to hire a lawyer after he
legally transfered the title on the car. I realize that it's customary to
list anyone with deep pockets but there has to be some limits. Did the
provider of the drugs also get named?
Bob

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