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Brick Seat Wall on concrete slab? thelockerroom 07-12-2007
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Posted by on July 12, 2007, 3:03 pm
Hi! We are having a seating wall made of Unilock pavers put in. We
have a concrete slab patio. Is it better to put the wall directly on
the concrete or next to it? We have received different opinions on
this, some say the concrete will crack. Thanks for any help!


Posted by RicodJour on July 12, 2007, 3:15 pm
On Jul 12, 3:03 pm, thelockerr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Hi! We are having a seating wall made of Unilock pavers put in. We
> have a concrete slab patio. Is it better to put the wall directly on
> the concrete or next to it? We have received different opinions on
> this, some say the concrete will crack.

When you say that the wall will be made out of pavers, do you mean the
stackable wall block, or are you talking about leftover patio pavers?
Either way, if you're talking about a wall roughly 18" high and a foot
thick, that's about 275 pounds per linear foot. If the slab doesn't
have reinforcement, you're in a colder climate, the sub-grade wasn't
prepared correctly or the slab is on expansive soil (clay), then the
odds are pretty good that the slab will crack.

I'd probably put the low wall next to the patio so they can move
independently of each other. You could use concrete block and add
colorant to surface bonding cement to give the wall a stucco look and
top it with whatever. That would bring the weight down a fair.

R


Posted by on July 12, 2007, 5:42 pm
> On Jul 12, 3:03 pm, thelockerr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> > Hi! We are having a seating wall made of Unilock pavers put in. We
> > have a concrete slab patio. Is it better to put the wall directly on
> > the concrete or next to it? We have received different opinions on
> > this, some say the concrete will crack.
>
> When you say that the wall will be made out of pavers, do you mean the
> stackable wall block, or are you talking about leftover patio pavers?
> Either way, if you're talking about a wall roughly 18" high and a foot
> thick, that's about 275 pounds per linear foot. If the slab doesn't
> have reinforcement, you're in a colder climate, the sub-grade wasn't
> prepared correctly or the slab is on expansive soil (clay), then the
> odds are pretty good that the slab will crack.
>
> I'd probably put the low wall next to the patio so they can move
> independently of each other. You could use concrete block and add
> colorant to surface bonding cement to give the wall a stucco look and
> top it with whatever. That would bring the weight down a fair.
>
> R

Thanks for the info! We're using stackable wall pavers.


Posted by DanG on July 12, 2007, 8:24 pm
I don't know what stackable wall pavers are.

Garden wall blocks would be stable, but a bit thin. I can't
imagine them looking good on the back side.
Keystone or similar will break the concrete at about 80# per unit
and I can't imagine them looking satisfactory on whatever is the
back side.

Win, lose, or draw, take Rico's advice and keep the wall off the
slab or excavate under the slab edge and improve the bearing.

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>> On Jul 12, 3:03 pm, thelockerr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>
>> > Hi! We are having a seating wall made of Unilock pavers put
>> > in. We
>> > have a concrete slab patio. Is it better to put the wall
>> > directly on
>> > the concrete or next to it? We have received different
>> > opinions on
>> > this, some say the concrete will crack.
>>
>> When you say that the wall will be made out of pavers, do you
>> mean the
>> stackable wall block, or are you talking about leftover patio
>> pavers?
>> Either way, if you're talking about a wall roughly 18" high and
>> a foot
>> thick, that's about 275 pounds per linear foot. If the slab
>> doesn't
>> have reinforcement, you're in a colder climate, the sub-grade
>> wasn't
>> prepared correctly or the slab is on expansive soil (clay),
>> then the
>> odds are pretty good that the slab will crack.
>>
>> I'd probably put the low wall next to the patio so they can
>> move
>> independently of each other. You could use concrete block and
>> add
>> colorant to surface bonding cement to give the wall a stucco
>> look and
>> top it with whatever. That would bring the weight down a fair.
>>
>> R
>
> Thanks for the info! We're using stackable wall pavers.
>



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