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Build own house, where to start? Bryan 01-29-2007
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Posted by Raider Bill on February 1, 2007, 9:41 am
> Rader Bill
>
> Reddiform is not a bad product but for easy of construction look at NUDURA.
> Larger blocks (18inches x 8feet), no gluing, lock together, 90 and 45
> degrees and tee's, go together like legos. Dovetailed inside with ribs to
> adhere to concrete better (no delaminating form concrete) screw strip full
> height of form... just suggest you check it out. www. NUDURA.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >> You mentioned energy efficient and red steel... not gonna work very
> >> >> well.
> >> >> Consider using Insulated Concrete Forms (ICF) instead. It will give
> >> >> you
> >> >> very energy efficient walls (up to R-50 performance), wind resistance
> >> >> up
> >> >> to
> >> >> 250mph, sound resistance, as well as being a 3 hr rated fire wall.
> >> >> Besides
> >> >> it will be a lot easier to construct. For more information go
> >> >> to:www.futurestone.com.
>
>
>
> >> > I plan on building my own house in the Tn. mountains starting as soon
> >> > as this summer. Unfortunatly, I will be building 700 miles away.
>
> >> > A metal building with house built inside was my first choice. I
> >> > planned drew plans, I priced. I soon learned that I was going down the
> >> > wrong path for several reasons
>
> >> What possessed you to think of going that way?
> >> --
>
> >> MichaelBwww.michaelbulatovich.ca-Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Do you mean by using a metal structure? If so originally it was my
> > intention for speed of building the extierior so I could work inside
> > on the buildout faster. I also considered strength and durability
> > plus, I was looking at a 50x100 with my shop in one half, living
> > quarters in the other.
> > I still think you can get around most of the issues but not in a cost
> > effective way. Additionally, I would have ended up in a astectically
> > ugly house.
>
> > Plan number 3000 says ICF's are the way I'm going which will include a
> > full size drive out basement with 10 ceilings and living space around
> > 2000 on a single floor.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

HAve you used them?


Posted by abarr on February 1, 2007, 9:55 pm
I have not personally used NUDURA. I have seen many houses in my area that
have and the residents are more that pleased. Reporting energy bills as low
as 40% as their neighbors. I am sold on the concept. And NUDURA is suppose
to be the easiest to use.

>> Rader Bill
>>
>> Reddiform is not a bad product but for easy of construction look at
>> NUDURA.
>> Larger blocks (18inches x 8feet), no gluing, lock together, 90 and 45
>> degrees and tee's, go together like legos. Dovetailed inside with ribs
>> to
>> adhere to concrete better (no delaminating form concrete) screw strip
>> full
>> height of form... just suggest you check it out. www. NUDURA.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> >> You mentioned energy efficient and red steel... not gonna work very
>> >> >> well.
>> >> >> Consider using Insulated Concrete Forms (ICF) instead. It will
>> >> >> give
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> very energy efficient walls (up to R-50 performance), wind
>> >> >> resistance
>> >> >> up
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> 250mph, sound resistance, as well as being a 3 hr rated fire wall.
>> >> >> Besides
>> >> >> it will be a lot easier to construct. For more information go
>> >> >> to:www.futurestone.com.
>>
>>
>>
>> >> > I plan on building my own house in the Tn. mountains starting as
>> >> > soon
>> >> > as this summer. Unfortunatly, I will be building 700 miles away.
>>
>> >> > A metal building with house built inside was my first choice. I
>> >> > planned drew plans, I priced. I soon learned that I was going down
>> >> > the
>> >> > wrong path for several reasons
>>
>> >> What possessed you to think of going that way?
>> >> --
>>
>> >> MichaelBwww.michaelbulatovich.ca-Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > Do you mean by using a metal structure? If so originally it was my
>> > intention for speed of building the extierior so I could work inside
>> > on the buildout faster. I also considered strength and durability
>> > plus, I was looking at a 50x100 with my shop in one half, living
>> > quarters in the other.
>> > I still think you can get around most of the issues but not in a cost
>> > effective way. Additionally, I would have ended up in a astectically
>> > ugly house.
>>
>> > Plan number 3000 says ICF's are the way I'm going which will include a
>> > full size drive out basement with 10 ceilings and living space around
>> > 2000 on a single floor.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> HAve you used them?
>



Posted by HerHusband on January 29, 2007, 12:07 pm
Bryan,

> I've finally decided to build my own house

My wife and I built our own house a couple of years ago. It was a lot of
work, but very rewarding and allowed us to own a house we probably
couldn't have afforded otherwise.

> where do I start on permits and such?

I'd start with the building department. They will be the ones governing
what you can or can't do. Better to know up front what is allowed and
required before you even start planning your house.

After that, you'll need to come up with architectural drawings. We drew
our own plans, but you may want to consult an architect. Again, check
with the building department. They should be able to tell you what they
need, usually two copies of the plot plan, floor plan, cross sections,
details, etc.

> Can I do my own work, with out a license, such as electrical,
> plumbing, etc?

It depends on your local requirements. Check with the building
department. In our area, homeowners can do any work on their own houses,
as long as it is inspected and meets codes. We did all of our own wiring,
plumbing, etc. But, some areas around the country have restrictions on
what the homeowner is allowed to do.

> some work has to be done my contractors, for me this is foundation,
> septic & HVAC for sure.

We did our own excavation and foundation work, but did hire out for the
septic and garage slab. They had the tools, manpower, and experience to
do those jobs right.

> I plan on building a red iron steel framed house

Unless you have experience with steel framed houses, I would recommend
sticking with traditional platform framed wood houses. The tools and
materials are familiar to work with, easy to locate, and the permit and
inspection process will be easier to deal with since the building
department is already familiar with them. The farther you deviate from
the "norm", the more you'll be on your own for information, and the more
trouble you'll have getting approval from the inspectors. You'll probably
also need to provide engineering approval for anything outside the usual
wood frame construction.

Start small. Build a shed, or a garage, or something similar to practice
your skills before tackling the house.

Be prepared. Building a house is a big project. It'll take lots of money,
and lots of time. It took my wife and I about 21 months to complete our
1456 sq/ft home, with me working mostly full time at it. It quickly
becomes the focal point of your life. You eat, breathe, and sleep house
building. You won't have time or money for recreational activities. No
eating out, no going to see a movie, no vacation. Just house building. If
you're married, you may end up divorced. If you're single, you may end up
married. :) Like I said, it's a wonderful experience, but if you don't
really enjoy what you're doing, it can quickly turn into a nightmare.

Study, study, study. You won't know everything, even if you have
experience in some areas. Be prepared to read books, research the
internet, and ask around until you are positive you know how to do
something. Remember, codes are the "minimum" standard for building.
Before I would start the next stage of a project, I would spend days
reviewing the codes and techniques it would require. Even if I had
performed similar projects in the past, codes change, and I forget
things. Studying before each step gave me confidence and helped me avoid
problems.

Work with the building department, not against them. Don't argue with the
inspector. They're just doing their job, to insure the house you build is
safe. If they make suggestions, follow them. If you're not sure about
something, ask the inspector. We had about 8 different inspectors over
the course of our project, and I enjoyed working with all of them. I
would take notes of the items they found, and would ask along the way if
there were any things I could do better even if it wasn't required by
code. I got lots of great ideas from the inspectors and they seemed to
enjoy watching our progress as much as we did. The inspectors deal with a
lot of inexperience and people too stubborn to make changes. They may
show up and expect you're an idiot. That's OK, you're not a professional
builder. Mistakes happen, and you can't know everything. Let them know
you want to do your best and you appreciate their advice. They'll be more
likely to help, and less likely to nitpick the small stuff.

Keep it small. The bigger the house, the longer and more expensive it
will be to build. It will also be harder to clean and heat once it is
finished.

Good luck, and have fun!

Anthony

Posted by J.C. on January 29, 2007, 3:53 pm

> I've finally decided to build my own house on an existing lot where my
> current, older, house sits.
> I've never done anything homeowner related before, I've moved into in-laws
> house in Oklahoma City after my military service, and am now ready to
> replace the house with a newer, safer, more energy efficient home.
> So where do I start

Well, Bryan, I've just about finished with mine and if I had it to do over
again I would start with a GOOD BUILDER!

JC



Posted by J.C. on January 29, 2007, 3:58 pm

> I've finally decided to build my own house on an existing lot where my
> current, older, house sits.
> I've never done anything homeowner related before, I've moved into in-laws
> house in Oklahoma City after my military service, and am now ready to
> replace the house with a newer, safer, more energy efficient home.
> So where do I start

Well, Bryan, I've just about finished with mine and if I had it to do over
again I would start with a GOOD BUILDER!

JC



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