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Building a concrete wall question Alpha One 07-18-2006
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Posted by Alpha One on July 26, 2006, 11:49 pm
Three years ago I built a concrete retaining wall in the same backyard 10"
wide, 5.5 ft high and about 44' long. Plus the footing which was 3' wide by
1.5' high. When I was finished I had spent $2,500.00 or more. This included
concrete, steel, wood for the case, etc. If I had done it with blocks it
would be much cheaper, but also less strong. Because it is in a L shape one
side keeps the other from tipping. On each end the dirt goes up to the top
on the outside also. So, it should stay in place for quite some time.


> Just for fun humor me and check out the price of block verses what you
> are contemplating. There are alot of things yo may not have thought
> about. Renting forms: by the time you go get them oil them down buy all
> the "additional" ties take them down CLEAN them stack them you can
> have the wall built of block and when its done its done. Of course you
> would have to "grout" the wall (fill it with concrete) also but trust
> me you would still be ahead..ever seen a concrete form blow
> out?........ hey I have nothing against formed concrete walls but there
> is a time and place and I think if your thinking of money savings (arnt
> we all)..well you will see give it a try
> Alpha One wrote:
>> The wall will be a retaining wall in my backyard. I intend to use three
>> 3/4
>> in. rebars orizontaly and vertical ones spaced 2 ft or so apart, plus two
>> 3/4 in. rebars in the footing. Nothing will be on the top of the wall.
>> The
>> soil underneath on one side is rock for a distance of about 25 ft at a
>> dept
>> of about .75 to 1 ft, and the other 31 ft is soil never moved. The
>> footing
>> will be 24 in. wide, maybe more, by 12 in. deep.
>> The dirt behind the wall is dry and will be about 5 in. below the top od
>> the
>> wall and it goes flat from there. There is no drive way or anything else
>> on
>> it, just grass. I intend to use gravel and a pipe plus cloth for
>> drainage.
>> The wall's hight over the rocky side will be about 3.5 ft. (from the rock
>> to
>> the top of the wall). The rest of the wall, starting right after the rock
>> will be 4.5 ft. from the bottom of the footing to the top of the wall
>> and
>> at the other end will be 3 ft, also from the bottom of the footing to the
>> top of the wall.
>



Posted by Nehmo Sergheyev on July 27, 2006, 1:04 am
That's low, even for just the materials. And do you mean forms by the
word "case"?
--
(||) Nehmo (||)
-------------------------------------------------------------

Alpha One wrote:
> Three years ago I built a concrete retaining wall in the same backyard 10"
> wide, 5.5 ft high and about 44' long. Plus the footing which was 3' wide by
> 1.5' high. When I was finished I had spent $2,500.00 or more. This included
> concrete, steel, wood for the case, etc. If I had done it with blocks it
> would be much cheaper, but also less strong. Because it is in a L shape one
> side keeps the other from tipping. On each end the dirt goes up to the top
> on the outside also. So, it should stay in place for quite some time.


Posted by Alpha One on July 27, 2006, 10:48 am
More accurately:

Today I measure the wall and checked the receipts. The wall is 51' long. 34'
has a footing of 3' by 1.5' and a wall of 10" by 5.5'. On one side 17' are
only almost 2' high by 10" and no footing; it sits on top of a wall
previously there.
I ordered a total of 12.5 yards at $75.00 was $993.75. With rebars, wood for
forms (case) etc. I spent $2,784.00. This is for all the materials including
any tool I had to purchase because of the wall.


> That's low, even for just the materials. And do you mean forms by the
> word "case"?
> --
> (||) Nehmo (||)
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Alpha One wrote:
>> Three years ago I built a concrete retaining wall in the same backyard
>> 10"
>> wide, 5.5 ft high and about 44' long. Plus the footing which was 3' wide
>> by
>> 1.5' high. When I was finished I had spent $2,500.00 or more. This
>> included
>> concrete, steel, wood for the case, etc. If I had done it with blocks it
>> would be much cheaper, but also less strong. Because it is in a L shape
>> one
>> side keeps the other from tipping. On each end the dirt goes up to the
>> top
>> on the outside also. So, it should stay in place for quite some time.
>



Posted by Nehmo Sergheyev on July 30, 2006, 9:00 pm
How did you dig the hole?
And how did you make the forms? You made forms 5.5 feet high? I'm not
saying you didn't do it, but that's something of an accomplishment for
one guy and $3K. You didn't mention paying any labor, so I assume you
did the whole thing by yourself.

--
(||) Nehmo (||)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Alpha One wrote:
> More accurately:
>
> Today I measure the wall and checked the receipts. The wall is 51' long. 34'
> has a footing of 3' by 1.5' and a wall of 10" by 5.5'. On one side 17' are
> only almost 2' high by 10" and no footing; it sits on top of a wall
> previously there.
> I ordered a total of 12.5 yards at $75.00 was $993.75. With rebars, wood for
> forms (case) etc. I spent $2,784.00. This is for all the materials including
> any tool I had to purchase because of the wall.


Posted by Alpha One on July 31, 2006, 9:47 am
By pick and shovel. Took a while and lots of dirt moved. From begining to
end it was just myself.
The forms I did with 2x4s and 3/4 plywood. I tried to send a picture as an
attachment but it didn't go though. If you go to alt.binaries.photos and
look for 'For Nehmo' you can see the wall form different angles.


> How did you dig the hole?
> And how did you make the forms? You made forms 5.5 feet high? I'm not
> saying you didn't do it, but that's something of an accomplishment for
> one guy and $3K. You didn't mention paying any labor, so I assume you
> did the whole thing by yourself.
>
> --
> (||) Nehmo (||)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Alpha One wrote:
>> More accurately:
>>
>> Today I measure the wall and checked the receipts. The wall is 51' long.
>> 34'
>> has a footing of 3' by 1.5' and a wall of 10" by 5.5'. On one side 17'
>> are
>> only almost 2' high by 10" and no footing; it sits on top of a wall
>> previously there.
>> I ordered a total of 12.5 yards at $75.00 was $993.75. With rebars, wood
>> for
>> forms (case) etc. I spent $2,784.00. This is for all the materials
>> including
>> any tool I had to purchase because of the wall.
>



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