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Cheap-n-dirty shelving for concrete wall? John E. 02-16-2007
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Posted by Goedjn on February 16, 2007, 2:02 pm
wrote:

>Thus spake clintonG:
>
>> A 3/4" x 12-15" plywood shelf with bracing every 36" should suffice and
>> could easily carry loads up to 100 lbs. without worry.
>
>The *kind* of bracing is the point of my question and post. What supports the
>shelf, in your design?
>
>Would like to avoid an all-2x4 lumber triangle every 36 inches -- I plan to
>span almost 20 feet of wall with these shelves, with possibly as many as 3 or
>4 shelves above the work surface. (The work surface itself is a
>self-supporting "box" design.)
>
>Bolting 2x4 to the wall is no problem. I'm just trying to avoid the use of
>vertical "post" supports into the work area.
>
>Thanks,


I built a bunch of wall brackets out of 1x3s and 1x2s,
like this: www.goedjn.com/sketch/bracket.gif

Which are adequate to hold up a good armload of 2x4s,
if placed every 4'. Mine are screwed into the
wall with 3.5" deck screws.

they need one screw through the tenon where the
horizontal pegs to the vertical, to keep it
from withdrawing, but everything else is
in compression when it's loaded.
Note that the tennons on the angle peice
need to be at 45 degrees, or you can't
assemble all three parts at once.

In my setup, the triangular open area is used to
to store pipe and dowel.



Posted by Larry W on February 16, 2007, 11:42 pm
<...snipped...>
>
>Would like to avoid an all-2x4 lumber triangle every 36 inches -- I plan to
>span almost 20 feet of wall with these shelves, with possibly as many as 3 or
>4 shelves above the work surface. (The work surface itself is a
>self-supporting "box" design.)
>
>Bolting 2x4 to the wall is no problem. I'm just trying to avoid the use of
>vertical "post" supports into the work area.
>
An idea used for lumber racks may be applicable to your needs: In the
2X4 supports secured to the wall, drill* 13/16" holes at desired shelf
height. Insert appropriate lengtsh of 1/2" iron pipe and rest the shelves
on top of them. The holes can be angled slightly to have the shelves
slant downwards towards the wall if desired.

*Check the size before drilling, I believe 13/16' gives a snug fit
for 1/2" iron pipe but my memory is not what it used to be. If you
want, you can use 3/4" pipe for more strength, that would probably
require a hole in the 1 1/8" range or thereabouts.

--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf.lonestar.org

Posted by John E. on February 16, 2007, 4:56 pm
I think I've hit on an idea...

Ideally, I'm looking for a sheet metal triangle (not 3 sheet metal sides, but
a 3-sided piece of sheet steel) with a flange on each of the 2 mounting sides
(vertical and horizontal) for attaching to wood upright and shelving with
screws. Heavy metal, not tin.

But my eyes are getting weak from the web sites I've searched for such a
thing. Anyone seen such?

Thanks,
--
John English


Posted by John E. on February 16, 2007, 5:05 pm
Thus spake John E.:

> a 3-sided piece of sheet steel...

On second read, that doesn't look clear.

I mean a stamped steel triangle with flanges and screw holes on 2 edges for
attaching to upright and to the shelf.

Hope that's clearer...
--
John English


Posted by longshot on February 16, 2007, 5:24 pm
go to www.mcmaster.com search wall mount shelving. I tried to post the link
& it wouldn't work. for about 7 bucks a piece you can buy brackets with a
1060 lb capacity

> Thus spake John E.:
>
>> a 3-sided piece of sheet steel...
>
> On second read, that doesn't look clear.
>
> I mean a stamped steel triangle with flanges and screw holes on 2 edges
> for
> attaching to upright and to the shelf.
>
> Hope that's clearer...
> --
> John English
>
>



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