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Concrete garage base James 08-11-2006
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Posted by =?UTF-8?B?UGFsaW5kcuKYu21l?= on August 11, 2006, 4:09 pm
James wrote:
<snip>
>
> £376 for ready mix delivered - not including waiting time to barrow it to
> bottom of garden, estaimated 90 barrows!!!
>
> £734 for it pumped, again not including waiting time!!
>
> I reckon I can do it for £300 if I mix it myself, not including the £25 for
> a week's hire of mixer, and couple of crates of lager for hire of two mates
> :-)

Sorry, my misunderstanding - I thought you were saying you could get
pumped readimix for twice the cost of the materials to do it yourself..
Still, the prices ae surprising - it only cost me 70GBP extra over the
roadside price to get a load pumped about the same distance.

It's like when you get your first washing machine or dishwasher, it
spoils you for life..
>
>
>
> So you'd put the middle strip in straight away, while the other two are
> still damp?

Well, not straight away. I would start early, get the outer strips done,
stop for a generous lunch and then remove the intermediate shuttering
and pour the central strip. If you haven't put in too much water, a
couple of hours is enough for it to hold its shape with that depth of
material. Just run a trowel vertically along the edge of the shuttering
to release it, before pulling it away, or it might pull some material
away with it (no big deal, but the lines showing where the strips join
will have a wander in them)..Just level across the centre strip to the
outer ones, but do it gently.

--
Sue















Posted by DanG on August 13, 2006, 9:19 am
There is a big difference here between morning (first round)pump
costs and afternoon pump costs. You might investigate your costs
on this basis.

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>
>> James wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>
>>> £376 for ready mix delivered - not including waiting time to
>>> barrow it to bottom of garden, estaimated 90 barrows!!!
>>>
>>> £734 for it pumped, again not including waiting time!!
>>>
>>> I reckon I can do it for £300 if I mix it myself, not
>>> including the £25 for a week's hire of mixer, and couple of
>>> crates of lager for hire of two mates :-)
>>
>> Sorry, my misunderstanding - I thought you were saying you
>> could get pumped readimix for twice the cost of the materials
>> to do it yourself.. Still, the prices ae surprising - it only
>> cost me 70GBP extra over the roadside price to get a load
>> pumped about the same distance.
>
> I will have to ring round for more pumping quotes in that case,
> to make sure the first company aren't trying to pull a fast one.
>
>>
>> It's like when you get your first washing machine or
>> dishwasher, it spoils you for life..
>
> lol
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So you'd put the middle strip in straight away, while the
>>> other two are still damp?
>>
>> Well, not straight away. I would start early, get the outer
>> strips done, stop for a generous lunch and then remove the
>> intermediate shuttering and pour the central strip. If you
>> haven't put in too much water, a couple of hours is enough for
>> it to hold its shape with that depth of material. Just run a
>> trowel vertically along the edge of the shuttering to release
>> it, before pulling it away, or it might pull some material away
>> with it (no big deal, but the lines showing where the strips
>> join will have a wander in them)..Just level across the centre
>> strip to the outer ones, but do it gently.
>
> I'm concerned about cracks and was wondering if laying wet
> against damp, or wet against dry is the best way to achieve a
> perfect finish?
>
>>
>> --
>> Sue
>
> Thanks for all your advice :-)
>



Posted by Bob Morrison on August 11, 2006, 10:32 am
In a previous post James wrote...
> I want to lay a garage base at the bottom of my garden, for my motorbikes.
> It is 25 metres from the road side so delivery of pre-mixed concrete will be
> a problem, or expensive, or both.
>

Rent a line pump and do the job in one day.

Yes, it will be more expensive, but you will get a better result and you
will save your back since you won't have to haul 3 cubic meters of sand,
gravel and cement by hand.

--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com

Posted by James on August 11, 2006, 10:37 am

> In a previous post James wrote...
>> I want to lay a garage base at the bottom of my garden, for my
>> motorbikes.
>> It is 25 metres from the road side so delivery of pre-mixed concrete will
>> be
>> a problem, or expensive, or both.
>>
>
> Rent a line pump and do the job in one day.
>
> Yes, it will be more expensive, but you will get a better result and you
> will save your back since you won't have to haul 3 cubic meters of sand,
> gravel and cement by hand.
>

I don't mind doing the hard work as I'm trying to get fitter anyway! I'll
move the stuff to the site at a leisurely pace over the preceeding days.

I got a quote for ready mix to be pumped into position and it was twice the
cost of me doing it myself.

> --
> Bob Morrison, PE, SE
> R L Morrison Engineering Co
> Structural & Civil Engineering
> Poulsbo WA
> bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com



Posted by Kickstart on August 11, 2006, 10:56 am

>>> a problem, or expensive, or both.
>>>
>>
>> Rent a line pump and do the job in one day.
>>
>> Yes, it will be more expensive, but you will get a better result and you
>> will save your back since you won't have to haul 3 cubic meters of sand,
>> gravel and cement by hand.
>>
>
> I don't mind doing the hard work as I'm trying to get fitter anyway! I'll
> move the stuff to the site at a leisurely pace over the preceeding days.
>
> I got a quote for ready mix to be pumped into position and it was twice
> the cost of me doing it myself.
>
penny wise ?
Mixing consistent concrete and placement is critical to a successful job.
Pound foolish ?
Just don't hurt yourself or your Mate, he may not want to be as fit as you
towards the end of the day

kickstart



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