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Construction of Concrete Water Storage Tank Ramin.Sh1 01-07-2007
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Posted by Ramin.Sh1 on January 21, 2007, 11:34 am

Bobk207 =E4=E6=D4=CA=E5 =C7=D3=CA:

> Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree
>
>
> you stated......
>
> "I believe when you want to answer someone's question, you don't need
> to
> know his "intentions", you need to know his question. "
>
> I disagree, in order to get a good answer to a complex situation one
> needs MORE information
>
> "I think my question is clear and what I need is obvious"
>
> Again I'll have to disagree...if your question was clear....you'd have
> an answer by now.
>
> The people who frequent this group have MANY YEARS of
> experience....the fact that you're getting similar replies points in a
> certain direction
>
> The fact that that you "don't get it" why people reading your question
> "don't get it", is rather illuminating & food for thought. :)
>
> good luck
>
> cheers
> Bob


Thanks Bob for your illustrative answer, But all the replies I've got
here are not similar, actually some people have answered my question
(thank you all). It simply means that "they got it"...

At least 3 methods of constructing the tank are mentioned in this
thread:
1) Wire Wound Prestressed Concrete
2) Stainless Steel
3) Glass Fused-to-Steel
I think that Wire Wound Prestressed method should be a fast method
proportional to its advantages.
There may be faster and/or better methods, I'd be glad if you could
tell me about them (instead of nagging about my unclear question &
"intentions")

regards
Ramin


Posted by Steve Barker on January 21, 2007, 12:03 pm
Don't forget I mentioned the plastic lined hole in the ground.

--
Steve Barker



Bobk207 لنشتم است:

>
Thanks Bob for your illustrative answer, But all the replies I've got
here are not similar, actually some people have answered my question
(thank you all). It simply means that "they got it"...

At least 3 methods of constructing the tank are mentioned in this
thread:
1) Wire Wound Prestressed Concrete
2) Stainless Steel
3) Glass Fused-to-Steel
I think that Wire Wound Prestressed method should be a fast method
proportional to its advantages.
There may be faster and/or better methods, I'd be glad if you could
tell me about them (instead of nagging about my unclear question &
"intentions")

regards
Ramin



Posted by Bobk207 on January 21, 2007, 1:44 pm

Ramin.Sh1 wrote:
> Bobk207 =E4=E6=D4=CA=E5 =C7=D3=CA:
>
> > Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree
> >
> >
> > you stated......
> >
> > "I believe when you want to answer someone's question, you don't need
> > to
> > know his "intentions", you need to know his question. "
> >
> > I disagree, in order to get a good answer to a complex situation one
> > needs MORE information
> >
> > "I think my question is clear and what I need is obvious"
> >
> > Again I'll have to disagree...if your question was clear....you'd have
> > an answer by now.
> >
> > The people who frequent this group have MANY YEARS of
> > experience....the fact that you're getting similar replies points in a
> > certain direction
> >
> > The fact that that you "don't get it" why people reading your question
> > "don't get it", is rather illuminating & food for thought. :)
> >
> > good luck
> >
> > cheers
> > Bob
>
>
> Thanks Bob for your illustrative answer, But all the replies I've got
> here are not similar, actually some people have answered my question
> (thank you all). It simply means that "they got it"...
>
> At least 3 methods of constructing the tank are mentioned in this
> thread:
> 1) Wire Wound Prestressed Concrete
> 2) Stainless Steel
> 3) Glass Fused-to-Steel
> I think that Wire Wound Prestressed method should be a fast method
> proportional to its advantages.
> There may be faster and/or better methods, I'd be glad if you could
> tell me about them (instead of nagging about my unclear question &
> "intentions")
>
> regards
> Ramin


Ramin-

I'm sorry you consider my comments nagging....too bad, you would learn
a lot if you took them to heart, as you said you're not an engineer
but you are dabbling in that realm

And getting the right answer depends on asking the right question.

btw you forgot to list my very fast to construct suggestion.....a shot
creted reservoir with a floating liner

cheers
Bob


Posted by Ramin.Sh1 on January 22, 2007, 7:12 am

Bobk207 =E4=E6=D4=CA=E5 =C7=D3=CA:
>
> I'm sorry you consider my comments nagging....too bad, you would learn
> a lot if you took them to heart, as you said you're not an engineer
> but you are dabbling in that realm
>
> And getting the right answer depends on asking the right question.
>
> btw you forgot to list my very fast to construct suggestion.....a shot
> creted reservoir with a floating liner
>
> cheers
> Bob

Okay Bob, I will consider what you've told me. I will make my next
questions as clear as I can. However, I'm not a native English
speaker.
By the way, I am an enginner, just not a civil one.
The method you have mentioned is the fastest method, I guess. But it
will not solve my problem cause I need a tank.

regards
Ramin


Posted by Bobk207 on January 22, 2007, 12:31 pm

Ramin.Sh1 wrote:
> Bobk207 =E4=E6=D4=CA=E5 =C7=D3=CA:
> >
> > I'm sorry you consider my comments nagging....too bad, you would learn
> > a lot if you took them to heart, as you said you're not an engineer
> > but you are dabbling in that realm
> >
> > And getting the right answer depends on asking the right question.
> >
> > btw you forgot to list my very fast to construct suggestion.....a shot
> > creted reservoir with a floating liner
> >
> > cheers
> > Bob
>
> Okay Bob, I will consider what you've told me. I will make my next
> questions as clear as I can. However, I'm not a native English
> speaker.
> By the way, I am an enginner, just not a civil one.
> The method you have mentioned is the fastest method, I guess. But it
> will not solve my problem cause I need a tank.
>
> regards
> Ramin


Ramin-

I could tell you were not a native English speaker but your English is
very good (much better than MY second language).

I think that a fair amount of our disagreement on how to approach
problem solving may be our different cultural point of views.

We Americans tend do be very straight forward & reveal a LOT of
background information during the solution process. This method works
very well for me on technical problems.

Other cultures (& I have worked with a few) do things differently. In
my opinion these other techniques are much slower & do not (typically)
find optimum solutions. Limiting information, limits the solution
space.

but that's the way they do things, which, of course, is their right

By the way I am a mechanical engineer (design, analysis, 13 years in
aerospace) who then spent 17 years in civil / structures research. I
have years of design & project experience.

but when I go outside of my area of experience / education I'm just a
novice.

cheers
Bob


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