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Construction of Concrete Water Storage Tank Ramin.Sh1 01-07-2007
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Posted by RicodJour on January 22, 2007, 11:52 pm
Ramin.Sh1 wrote:
>
> By the way, I am an enginner, just not a civil one.

Elwood P. Dowd: Years ago my mother used to say to me, she'd say, "In
this world, Elwood, you must be" - she always called me Elwood - "In
this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." Well,
for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me.

R


Posted by Bobk207 on January 23, 2007, 1:24 am

RicodJour wrote:
> Ramin.Sh1 wrote:
> >
> > By the way, I am an enginner, just not a civil one.
>
> Elwood P. Dowd: Years ago my mother used to say to me, she'd say, "In
> this world, Elwood, you must be" - she always called me Elwood - "In
> this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." Well,
> for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me.
>
> R


BTDT

it's much easier & much less stress to be pleasant........smart is a
LOT of work. :)

cheers
Bob


Posted by Bobk207 on January 21, 2007, 1:57 pm

Ramin.Sh1 wrote:
> Bobk207 =E4=E6=D4=CA=E5 =C7=D3=CA:
>
> > Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree
> >
> >
> > you stated......
> >
> > "I believe when you want to answer someone's question, you don't need
> > to
> > know his "intentions", you need to know his question. "
> >
> > I disagree, in order to get a good answer to a complex situation one
> > needs MORE information
> >
> > "I think my question is clear and what I need is obvious"
> >
> > Again I'll have to disagree...if your question was clear....you'd have
> > an answer by now.
> >
> > The people who frequent this group have MANY YEARS of
> > experience....the fact that you're getting similar replies points in a
> > certain direction
> >
> > The fact that that you "don't get it" why people reading your question
> > "don't get it", is rather illuminating & food for thought. :)
> >
> > good luck
> >
> > cheers
> > Bob
>
>
> Thanks Bob for your illustrative answer, But all the replies I've got
> here are not similar, actually some people have answered my question
> (thank you all). It simply means that "they got it"...
>
> At least 3 methods of constructing the tank are mentioned in this
> thread:
> 1) Wire Wound Prestressed Concrete
> 2) Stainless Steel
> 3) Glass Fused-to-Steel
> I think that Wire Wound Prestressed method should be a fast method
> proportional to its advantages.
> There may be faster and/or better methods, I'd be glad if you could
> tell me about them (instead of nagging about my unclear question &
> "intentions")
>
> regards
> Ramin

Ooops!

I missed the "stainless steel" option........SS for a 2.5 million
gallon water tank.....I don't think that would really be very viable
choice.

Oh, but don't remember reading if you required that the answers make
any practical sense.

better questions get better answers :)

I'm sorry I couldn't you give a better answer...too many unknowns

cheers
Bob


Posted by on January 17, 2007, 3:42 am
umm
ive done a tiny bit of research in this area

there are only 2 ways to have a decent cistern
buy one = safe, fast and easy
but you cant ship the dam things because they are HUGE

or make one with a food grade liner = pain in the

you can try all the concrete and coatings you want but that wont
get you where you need to be
and even dealing with a liner is old technology

the best way is to get a plastic tank that is made for drinking water
they are expensive and you can get smaller ones at farm supply
stores because farmers use them for stock
you want a black abs one if it is exposed so bacteria wont grow

the reason i really dont suggest that you make your own
there are some bad bacteria that are being found in these tanks
studies are being done in parts of the usa not 3rd world countries
finding that

just like the human papaloma virus is now found to cause cancer
in women a lot of these things they are finding may cause serious
illnesses and not just short term bowel problems.

so be careful

you will call and ask 40 pool centers and farm dealers
trying to find a food grade liner and not one of them will
have one clue about how to do this or get one.

the best way
google cistern tank
eventualy you will find there are a handful of gov sites
and a handfull of dealers

drop $5000 on a 10000gal tank with a pump
that can be partialy burried and build a kneewall out of cement block
with a lid over it to protect it from light and damage

or better yet get two 5000gal tanks one for drinking and
a non food grade one for toilets and have a way to connect them
in last resort

and keep the dam thing clean so you dont endup
with something bad in 20 years

: )









> Fastest method? Dig a hole, put a plastic liner in it. Fill it with
> water. Done. About 4 good backhoe operators and a dozen dump trucks
> should be able to do it in a day.
>
> --
> Steve Barker
>
>
>
>>
>> If they knew the answer, I wouldn't bother you. We can construct such a
>> tank with our traditional methods, like using slipforming. But I am
>> looking for the fastest method of excuting such projects.
>> Thank you
>>
>
>



Posted by Ramin.Sh1 on January 17, 2007, 7:40 am
moo@anonamoo.com =E4=E6=D4=CA=E5 =C7=D3=CA:
> umm
> ive done a tiny bit of research in this area
>
> there are only 2 ways to have a decent cistern
> buy one =3D safe, fast and easy
> but you cant ship the dam things because they are HUGE
>
> or make one with a food grade liner =3D pain in the
>
> you can try all the concrete and coatings you want but that wont
> get you where you need to be
> and even dealing with a liner is old technology
>
> the best way is to get a plastic tank that is made for drinking water
> they are expensive and you can get smaller ones at farm supply
> stores because farmers use them for stock
> you want a black abs one if it is exposed so bacteria wont grow
>
> the reason i really dont suggest that you make your own
> there are some bad bacteria that are being found in these tanks
> studies are being done in parts of the usa not 3rd world countries
> finding that
>
> just like the human papaloma virus is now found to cause cancer
> in women a lot of these things they are finding may cause serious
> illnesses and not just short term bowel problems.
>
> so be careful
>
> you will call and ask 40 pool centers and farm dealers
> trying to find a food grade liner and not one of them will
> have one clue about how to do this or get one.
>
> the best way
> google cistern tank
> eventualy you will find there are a handful of gov sites
> and a handfull of dealers


Thank you, I will consider this method. I haven't found any companies
doing such projects with this method. I would be pleased if you could
introduce any of of them (if you know any company working this way).

regards
ramin


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