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Construction of Concrete Water Storage Tank Ramin.Sh1 01-07-2007
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Posted by Bob Morrison on January 17, 2007, 10:30 am
In a previous post Ramin.Sh1 wrote...
> Thank you, I will consider this method. I haven't found any companies
> doing such projects with this method. I would be pleased if you could
> introduce any of of them (if you know any company working this way).
>

I very much doubt that you will find a 10,000-20,000 cubic meter tank
constructed in this fashion.

You asked for the fastest method. One of the fastest (as mentioned by
others) is to dig a hole and line it with with Hypalon or similar product.
This is a common, fast and inexpensive method to build large volume water
storage. You immediately rejected this advice because it didn't give the
answer you wanted based on some criteria unknown to us.

If the solution must be a tank, then there is only steel or concrete.
Neither method will be "fast". As I said earlier, a project of this size
will take a least a year to construct. Just the infrastructure to fill
and drain the tank is a major undertaking.

--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com

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Posted by Ramin.Sh1 on January 18, 2007, 5:00 am


Bob Morrison wrote:
> I very much doubt that you will find a 10,000-20,000 cubic meter tank
> constructed in this fashion.

Yes I believe that you are right.

> You asked for the fastest method. One of the fastest (as mentioned by
> others) is to dig a hole and line it with with Hypalon or similar product.
> This is a common, fast and inexpensive method to build large volume water
> storage. You immediately rejected this advice because it didn't give the
> answer you wanted based on some criteria unknown to us.

As I mentioned before, I think this method may not be a healthy way to
store water, as this tank is to be used to store drinkable water.

> If the solution must be a tank, then there is only steel or concrete.
> Neither method will be "fast". As I said earlier, a project of this size
> will take a least a year to construct. Just the infrastructure to fill
> and drain the tank is a major undertaking


Yes, I think the solution should be a tank (as I mentioned in my
original question).
And you are right again, the project may take some time. But if the
fastest method to construct a project this size takes years to
construct, there is no other way. That's not my problem that the
project may take to long, I just need to find the methods.

Regards
Ramin


Posted by Bob Morrison on January 18, 2007, 10:30 am
In a previous post Ramin.Sh1 wrote...
> > You asked for the fastest method. One of the fastest (as mentioned by
> > others) is to dig a hole and line it with with Hypalon or similar product.
> > This is a common, fast and inexpensive method to build large volume water
> > storage. You immediately rejected this advice because it didn't give the
> > answer you wanted based on some criteria unknown to us.
>
> As I mentioned before, I think this method may not be a healthy way to
> store water, as this tank is to be used to store drinkable water.
>

Many jurisdictions here in the US use in the ground reservoirs to store
drinking water. Some have covers and some don't. The City of Seattle is
currently undertaking to cover these reservoirs and turn the covers into
playgrounds and parks.

--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com

Posted by on January 17, 2007, 10:53 am
Call these people they are nice and know their stuff
http://www.watertanks.com/

This lady built one above ground many years ago
http://www.phys.ufl.edu/~liz/water.html

I dont suggest this method because of health problems
but lots of people have these things

other then plastic there are companies that build
stainless steel tanks on your site.
they are above ground units

also the studies I have read say do not rely on UV filters
alone. They can not be your only purification method
because they will fail to work when the bulbs need to be
changed and you cant tell the bulb is about to fail

its like a bulb in your house lamp BUT UV needs to work
100% not like your house light that can slowly get dim
and still provide light to read so you wont change it untill
it fails to turn on. does that make sence heheh :o)


this means you need chemical, uv and mechanical filters

cleaning water in a small system is harder then in larger
city size systems because the city just dumps chlorine
in untill everything is dead and the CL keeps on
working as it flows down your street to your house

in a small system you will have less then 100 feet to
make sure everything is clean and cl takes time to work



> the best way
> google cistern tank
> eventualy you will find there are a handful of gov sites
> and a handfull of dealers


Thank you, I will consider this method. I haven't found any companies
doing such projects with this method. I would be pleased if you could
introduce any of of them (if you know any company working this way).

regards
ramin



Posted by Dan Deckert on January 17, 2007, 11:51 pm
: quoted-printable

Ramin,
Albeit I've stayed away from this thread, I just can't take anymore of =
your impertanance. As Bob states;

I very much doubt that you will find a 10,000-20,000 cubic meter tank=20
constructed in this fashion.

Gotta agree there...........................


You asked for the fastest method. One of the fastest (as mentioned by=20
others) is to dig a hole and line it with with Hypalon or similar =
product. =20
This is a common, fast and inexpensive method to build large volume =
water=20
storage. You immediately rejected this advice because it didn't give =
the=20
answer you wanted based on some criteria unknown to us.

Gotta agree there as well..........................

If the solution must be a tank, then there is only steel or concrete.=20
Neither method will be "fast". As I said earlier, a project of this =
size=20
will take a least a year to construct. Just the infrastructure to fill=20
and drain the tank is a major undertaking.

Well Bob fell (sorta) on his butt here, "If the solution must be a =
tank," because the only obvious solution is a tank. I suppose you could =
round up a couple of million 1 gallon jugs & plumb =
them......har~har.....However, Bobs statement of, "a project of this =
size will take a least a year to construct. Just the infrastructure to =
fill and drain the tank is a major undertaking." is a fairly qualified =
statement.=20

It would seem you're taking an adversarial attitude in this matter =
instead of SERIOUSLY LOOKING at the advice given here. Unless you =
believe Captain Kirk & Scotty are going to beam down here and make you =
some transparent aluminum panels that can hold whales like in the =
movies.

I know of a few people/companies that would be more then willing to =
build a tank this size out of steel. Prices start @ $200.00/hr per =
man/hr plus all expenses. Satisfaction guaranteed............... In =
essence get a damn hint here and quit bitchin. Ie: Either shit or get =
off the Pot!

Dan





moo@anonamoo.com =E4=E6=D4=CA=E5 =C7=D3=CA:
> umm
> ive done a tiny bit of research in this area
>
> there are only 2 ways to have a decent cistern
> buy one =3D safe, fast and easy
> but you cant ship the dam things because they are HUGE
>
> or make one with a food grade liner =3D pain in the
>
> you can try all the concrete and coatings you want but that wont
> get you where you need to be
> and even dealing with a liner is old technology
>
> the best way is to get a plastic tank that is made for drinking water
> they are expensive and you can get smaller ones at farm supply
> stores because farmers use them for stock
> you want a black abs one if it is exposed so bacteria wont grow
>
> the reason i really dont suggest that you make your own
> there are some bad bacteria that are being found in these tanks
> studies are being done in parts of the usa not 3rd world countries
> finding that
>
> just like the human papaloma virus is now found to cause cancer
> in women a lot of these things they are finding may cause serious
> illnesses and not just short term bowel problems.
>
> so be careful
>
> you will call and ask 40 pool centers and farm dealers
> trying to find a food grade liner and not one of them will
> have one clue about how to do this or get one.
>
> the best way
> google cistern tank
> eventualy you will find there are a handful of gov sites
> and a handfull of dealers


Thank you, I will consider this method. I haven't found any companies
doing such projects with this method. I would be pleased if you could
introduce any of of them (if you know any company working this way).

regards
ramin

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ramin,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Albeit I've stayed away from this thread, I just =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I very much doubt that you will find a 10,000-20,000 =
cubic=20
meter tank <BR>constructed in this fashion.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gotta agree =
there...........................</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=3D2>You asked for the fastest method.&nbsp; One of =
the fastest=20
(as mentioned by <BR>others) is to dig a hole and line it with with =
Hypalon or=20
similar product.&nbsp; <BR>This is a common, fast and inexpensive method =
to=20
build large volume water <BR>storage.&nbsp; You immediately rejected =
this advice=20
because it didn't give the <BR>answer you wanted based on some criteria =
unknown=20
to us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gotta agree there as =
well..........................<BR><BR>If=20
the solution must be a tank, then there is only steel or concrete. =
<BR>Neither=20
method will be "fast".&nbsp; As I said earlier, a project of this size =
<BR>will=20
take a least a year to construct.&nbsp; Just the infrastructure to fill =
<BR>and=20
drain the tank is a major undertaking.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Well Bob fell (sorta) on his butt here, "If the =
solution must=20
be a tank,"&nbsp;because the only <U>obvious solution</U> is a tank. I =
suppose=20
you could round up a couple of million 1 gallon jugs &amp; plumb=20
them......har~har.....However, Bobs statement of, "a project of this =
size will=20
take a least a year to construct.&nbsp; Just the infrastructure to fill =
and=20
drain the tank is a major undertaking." is a fairly qualified statement. =

</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It would seem you're taking an adversarial attitude =
in this=20
matter instead of SERIOUSLY LOOKING at the advice given here. Unless you =
believe=20
Captain Kirk &amp; Scotty are going to beam down here and make you some=20
transparent aluminum panels that can hold whales like in the=20
movies.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I know of a few people/companies that would be more =
then=20
willing to build a tank this size out of steel. <STRONG><U>Prices start =
@=20
$200.00/hr per man/hr&nbsp;plus all expenses.</U></STRONG> Satisfaction=20
guaranteed............... In essence get a damn hint here and quit =
bitchin. Ie:=20
Either shit or get off the Pot!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"Ramin.Sh1" &lt;</FONT><A=20
size=3D2>ramin.sh1@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D2>&gt; wrote in =
message=20
</FONT><A=20
=20
></A><FONT=20
size=3D2>moo@anonamoo.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D2> =E4=E6=D4=CA=E5 =
=C7=D3=CA:<BR>&gt; umm<BR>&gt;=20
ive done a tiny bit of research in this area<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; there are =
only 2=20
ways to have a decent cistern<BR>&gt; buy one =3D safe, fast and =
easy<BR>&gt; but=20
you cant ship the dam things because they are HUGE<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; or =
make one=20
with a food grade liner =3D pain in the<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; you can try all =
the=20
concrete and coatings you want but that wont<BR>&gt; get you where you =
need to=20
be<BR>&gt; and even dealing with a liner is old =
technology<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; the=20
best way is to get a plastic tank that is made for drinking =
water<BR>&gt; they=20
are expensive and you can get smaller ones at farm supply<BR>&gt; stores =
because=20
farmers use them for stock<BR>&gt; you want a black abs one if it is =
exposed so=20
bacteria wont grow<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; the reason i really dont suggest that =
you=20
make your own<BR>&gt; there are some bad bacteria that are being found =
in these=20
tanks<BR>&gt; studies are being done in parts of the usa not 3rd world=20
countries<BR>&gt; finding that<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; just like the human =
papaloma=20
virus is now found to cause cancer<BR>&gt; in women a lot of these =
things they=20
are finding may cause serious<BR>&gt; illnesses and not just short term =
bowel=20
problems.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; so be careful<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; you will call =
and ask 40=20
pool centers and farm dealers<BR>&gt; trying to find a food grade liner =
and not=20
one of them will<BR>&gt; have one clue about how to do this or get=20
one.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; the best way<BR>&gt; google cistern tank<BR>&gt; =
eventualy=20
you will find there are a handful of gov sites<BR>&gt; and a handfull of =

dealers<BR><BR><BR>Thank you, I will consider this method.&nbsp; I =
haven't found=20
any companies<BR>doing such projects with this method. I would be =
pleased if you=20
could<BR>introduce any of of them (if you know any company working this=20
way).<BR><BR>regards<BR>ramin<BR></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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