Different CFL behaviors

Posted by Matt Barrow on December 9, 2008, 3:56 pm

"Dioclese" <NONE> wrote in message
> Still in process of switching entire house and exterior to CFLs.
> Thus far, I've run into these behaviors on different 13W (40W resistance
> lighting equivalent advertised) CFLs.
> Lights in hallway and front porch- half second delay before any
> illumination at all. Relatively dim illumination to the others mentioned
> here. Makes me nervous without instant lighting.
> Hollywood style lighting over sink. Immediate turn-on, practically no
> wait time for full illumination.
> Recessed lighting in kitchen- takes about a minute before full
> illumination. Quite bright when that time expires. No time delay for some
> initial illumination, but, very dim initially. If switched off, and
> immediately turned on, full illumination is there right away.
> Believe they're all GE make. First set bought at dollar store. 2nd and
> 3rd sets bought at Ace Hardware.
> Why the different turn-on and illumination behaviors?

Just wait until you replace your refrigerator light with a CFL.

Alas, our idiotic congress has spoken (though their asses).

Posted by on December 9, 2008, 8:51 pm

> "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote in message

> > Still in process of switching entire house and exterior to CFLs.
> > Thus far, I've run into these behaviors on different 13W (40W resistanc=

> > lighting equivalent advertised) CFLs.
> > Lights in hallway and front porch- half second delay before any
> > illumination at all. =A0Relatively dim illumination to the others menti=

oned

> > here. =A0Makes me nervous without instant lighting.
> > Hollywood style lighting over sink. =A0Immediate turn-on, practically n=

> > wait time for full illumination.
> > Recessed lighting in kitchen- takes about a minute before full
> > illumination. Quite bright when that time expires. =A0No time delay for=

some

> > initial illumination, but, very dim initially. =A0If switched off, and
> > immediately turned on, full illumination is there right away.
> > Believe they're all GE make. =A0First set bought at dollar store. =A02n=

d and

> > 3rd sets bought at Ace Hardware.
> > Why the different turn-on and illumination behaviors?

> Just wait until you replace your refrigerator light with a CFL.
> Alas, our idiotic congress has spoken (though their asses).

The thing about this is that no matter how much a pain it is it won't
get repealed. The prevailing thinking will be that as long as the
public is hassled then the impetus will be there to increase the
technology.

So........why is it that no one has a toilet that can flush more than
a tissue worth again?

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Posted by ransley on December 10, 2008, 8:47 am

On Dec 9, 7:51=A0pm, tgmfo...@gmail.com wrote:

> > "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote in message

> > > Still in process of switching entire house and exterior to CFLs.
> > > Thus far, I've run into these behaviors on different 13W (40W resista=

nce

> > > lighting equivalent advertised) CFLs.
> > > Lights in hallway and front porch- half second delay before any
> > > illumination at all. =A0Relatively dim illumination to the others men=

tioned

> > > here. =A0Makes me nervous without instant lighting.
> > > Hollywood style lighting over sink. =A0Immediate turn-on, practically=

> > > wait time for full illumination.
> > > Recessed lighting in kitchen- takes about a minute before full
> > > illumination. Quite bright when that time expires. =A0No time delay f=

or some

> > > initial illumination, but, very dim initially. =A0If switched off, an=

> > > immediately turned on, full illumination is there right away.
> > > Believe they're all GE make. =A0First set bought at dollar store. =A0=

2nd and

> > > 3rd sets bought at Ace Hardware.
> > > Why the different turn-on and illumination behaviors?

> > Just wait until you replace your refrigerator light with a CFL.
> > Alas, our idiotic congress has spoken (though their asses).

> The thing about this is that no matter how much a pain it is it won't
> get repealed. =A0The prevailing thinking will be that as long as the
> public is hassled then the impetus will be there to increase the
> technology.
> So........why is it that no one has a toilet that can flush more than
> a tissue worth again? =A0
> --
> Put XYZZY somewhere within the subject line of any emails to me or it
> will be summarily deleted.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -

You just have a poorly designed 1.6 toilet, consumer reports rated all
of them, I just put in 10 HD 59$ Glacier bay 1.6 toilets a year and
half ago, they flush anything down 1 flush and tenants dump
everything.

Posted by TKM on December 13, 2008, 9:43 am

> "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote in message

>> Still in process of switching entire house and exterior to CFLs.
>> Thus far, I've run into these behaviors on different 13W (40W resistance
>> lighting equivalent advertised) CFLs.
>> Lights in hallway and front porch- half second delay before any
>> illumination at all. Relatively dim illumination to the others mentioned
>> here. Makes me nervous without instant lighting.
>> Hollywood style lighting over sink. Immediate turn-on, practically no
>> wait time for full illumination.
>> Recessed lighting in kitchen- takes about a minute before full
>> illumination. Quite bright when that time expires. No time delay for
>> some initial illumination, but, very dim initially. If switched off, and
>> immediately turned on, full illumination is there right away.
>> Believe they're all GE make. First set bought at dollar store. 2nd and
>> 3rd sets bought at Ace Hardware.
>> Why the different turn-on and illumination behaviors?

> Just wait until you replace your refrigerator light with a CFL.
> Alas, our idiotic congress has spoken (though their asses).

Bulbs sold and marked as "appliance lamps" are exempted from federal and
state "ban-the-bulb" laws; so bulbs for your oven and fridge aren't going to
disappear any time soon.

LEDs love cold and so interior refrigerator lighting is going in that
direction including screw-in replacements. Lots of LEDs in store freezer
cases already. They start instantly at full output and never need to be
replaced.

Some CFLs are slow to start because of the ballast circuit, not temperature.
Look for "cold cathode" CFLs; they start instantly.

If you want to raise your chances of getting a quality CFL product, look on
the package for "Energy Star" or at least the manufacturer's "800" number.
Energy Star lamps have to meet performance requirements, are regularly
tested and have to be marked so you can contact the manufacturer for a
replacement in case of problems.

If you buy CFLs only on price, sooner or later you'll get stung.

TKM

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