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Disaster waiting to happen? Using PVC for deck supports??? Thomas G. Marshall 05-18-2008
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Posted by Thomas G. Marshall on May 18, 2008, 2:02 pm


There was a person I was speaking to recently who was proud of what he
considered to be a very bright move on his part.

He had noticed that the lolly-columns in his basement had been filled with
cement prior to being used. He assumed that the strength of the support was
in the cement, and therefore concluded it was a good idea to try filling PVC
tubes and using those as posts (note-not as sonno-tubes, but as fully
structural support posts).

I pointed out that I thought that the strength of a lolly was in the steel,
and that the cement was there merely to ensure that it was never dented,
causing it to fold like an aluminum can. I was concerned that the first
major frost heave under his deck that is able to stress the ledger enough to
pull outward a small amount would cause his pvc+cement "posts" to break.

Was I right?




Posted by on May 18, 2008, 2:20 pm
On Sun, 18 May 2008 18:02:54 GMT, "Thomas G. Marshall"

>
>
>There was a person I was speaking to recently who was proud of what he
>considered to be a very bright move on his part.
>
>He had noticed that the lolly-columns in his basement had been filled with
>cement prior to being used. He assumed that the strength of the support was
>in the cement, and therefore concluded it was a good idea to try filling PVC
>tubes and using those as posts (note-not as sonno-tubes, but as fully
>structural support posts).
>
>I pointed out that I thought that the strength of a lolly was in the steel,
>and that the cement was there merely to ensure that it was never dented,
>causing it to fold like an aluminum can. I was concerned that the first
>major frost heave under his deck that is able to stress the ledger enough to
>pull outward a small amount would cause his pvc+cement "posts" to break.
>
>Was I right?
>
>

The concrete in steel lolly columns is to help keep them from collapsing in a
fire.



Posted by Thomas G. Marshall on May 18, 2008, 5:21 pm
salty@dog.com said something like:

...[snip]...


> The concrete in steel lolly columns is to help keep them from
> collapsing in a fire.

....so the preventing a dent thing is secondary, or not a concern...?



Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on May 18, 2008, 5:30 pm
> salty@dog.com said something like:
>
> ...[snip]...
>
>
>> The concrete in steel lolly columns is to help keep them from
>> collapsing in a fire.
>
> ....so the preventing a dent thing is secondary, or not a concern...?
>


My interpretation is that the dent thing is completely irrelevant.



Posted by Matt Whiting on May 18, 2008, 6:29 pm
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> salty@dog.com said something like:
>>
>> ...[snip]...
>>
>>
>>> The concrete in steel lolly columns is to help keep them from
>>> collapsing in a fire.
>> ....so the preventing a dent thing is secondary, or not a concern...?
>>
>
>
> My interpretation is that the dent thing is completely irrelevant.
>
>

Your interpretation is incorrect.

Matt

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