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Dog Kennel Slab jloomis 09-22-2007
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Posted by Bobk207 on September 23, 2007, 1:40 am
> A client wants a 12 and 22 dog kennel erected on a slab. The kennel panels
> sit flat and come in various lengths and have legs that stand off the pad
> about 2 inches......
> Do I slope the entire slab?
> Do I rise the middle?
> It would be nice to pour a level pad and be done.......
> Washing it off is the problem.
> The panels need to sit I assume flat so that they all hook together......
> I have 3 - 7x6 panels... for each side.......21 ft. so 22 ft slab
> I have to 6x6 panels with a gate in one for the front.........
> I wonder what is best to do.
> jloomis
> thanks for any help.

Does the kennel fencing supplier provide any guidance?

I'd slope it in the "direction of cleaning", can it be accessed and
cleaned from the side?

Discuss the cleaning process & cycle with the client......how often it
gets hosed out would determine whether you need to design / consider
wash water handling.

Also local soil conditions should be considered.

Think about a vapor barrier under the slab (keeps the slab & dogs
drier) & an epoxy paint for the upper surface.

cheers
Bob

btw how did the redwood water tank situation work out?



Posted by jloomis on September 23, 2007, 10:29 am

>> A client wants a 12 and 22 dog kennel erected on a slab. The kennel
>> panels
>> sit flat and come in various lengths and have legs that stand off the pad
>> about 2 inches......
>> Do I slope the entire slab?
>> Do I rise the middle?
>> It would be nice to pour a level pad and be done.......
>> Washing it off is the problem.
>> The panels need to sit I assume flat so that they all hook together......
>> I have 3 - 7x6 panels... for each side.......21 ft. so 22 ft slab
>> I have to 6x6 panels with a gate in one for the front.........
>> I wonder what is best to do.
>> jloomis
>> thanks for any help.
>
> Does the kennel fencing supplier provide any guidance?
>
> I'd slope it in the "direction of cleaning", can it be accessed and
> cleaned from the side?
>
> Discuss the cleaning process & cycle with the client......how often it
> gets hosed out would determine whether you need to design / consider
> wash water handling.
>
> Also local soil conditions should be considered.
>
> Think about a vapor barrier under the slab (keeps the slab & dogs
> drier) & an epoxy paint for the upper surface.
>
> cheers
> Bob
>
> btw how did the redwood water tank situation work out?
I believe the redwood water tank still sits.......
The owner realizes his predicament.
The trailer court is filled to the brim with residences
The water is crucial......
I told him to install several smaller tanks near 3 or for units.....
We will see.
The kennel is another one....
I think I may slope the slab but then the door may be out of whack....?
Maybe I slope it all toward the door?
I don't know.
Thanks
John>
>



Posted by Steve on September 23, 2007, 2:30 pm
alt.building.construction:

> A client wants a 12 and 22 dog kennel erected on a slab. The kennel
> panels sit flat and come in various lengths and have legs that stand
> off the pad about 2 inches......
> Do I slope the entire slabe?
> Do I rise the middle?
> It would be nice to pour a level pad and be done.......
> Washing it off is the problem.
> The panels need to sit I assume flat so that they all hook
> together...... I have 3 - 7x6 panels... for each side.......21 ft.
> so 22 ft slab I have to 6x6 panels with a gate in one for the
> front......... I wonder what is best to do.

I've seen commercial implementations of what you want to do, and they
always use sloped concrete to ease the disposal of unwanted matter. (Was
that delicate enough?) You have two choices: you can slope to the inside
or the outside of the slab.

If you slope to the inside, you'll have to have a trough that then
slopes to one end of the slab. To clean the runs, you'll have to go to
the back and spray toward the middle, or put up with nasty water
splashing back in your face from the back wall.

If you slope to the outside, you'll have to have an opening to the
outside in each pen with a moat outside (as mentioned in another
posting). Alternatively, you can put the moat into the concrete inside
the walls and slope them to the end of the slab. You can then clean the
runs by spraying from the door toward the back wall.

No matter what you do, you'll need a sloped slab. If it were mine, I
think I'd have a curb around the outside on which the walls could sit,
then I'd have a cut through the curb for each run throuh which I could
wash the debris. Then I'd go around outside and pick up what doesn't
wash away.

In any case, think through what will be most convenient for the customer
to use. My cost to put in a complicated slab will be far outweighed by
the client's labor over the years.
--
Steve B.
New Life Home Improvement

Posted by George on September 24, 2007, 10:45 am
jloomis wrote:
> A client wants a 12 and 22 dog kennel erected on a slab. The kennel panels
> sit flat and come in various lengths and have legs that stand off the pad
> about 2 inches......
> Do I slope the entire slabe?
> Do I rise the middle?
> It would be nice to pour a level pad and be done.......
> Washing it off is the problem.
> The panels need to sit I assume flat so that they all hook together......
> I have 3 - 7x6 panels... for each side.......21 ft. so 22 ft slab
> I have to 6x6 panels with a gate in one for the front.........
> I wonder what is best to do.
> jloomis
> thanks for any help.
>
>
I would expect that the kennel manufacturer would provide required site
conditions for their system.

Posted by JC on September 28, 2007, 10:43 am

> jloomis wrote:
>> A client wants a 12 and 22 dog kennel erected on a slab. The kennel
>> panels sit flat and come in various lengths and have legs that stand off
>> the pad about 2 inches......
>> Do I slope the entire slabe?
>> Do I rise the middle?
>> It would be nice to pour a level pad and be done.......
>> Washing it off is the problem.
>> The panels need to sit I assume flat so that they all hook together......
>> I have 3 - 7x6 panels... for each side.......21 ft. so 22 ft slab
>> I have to 6x6 panels with a gate in one for the front.........
>> I wonder what is best to do.
>> jloomis
>> thanks for any help.
> I would expect that the kennel manufacturer would provide required site
> conditions for their system.

It amazes me that places like animal shelters even, don't know that concrete
slabs are the worst things in the world to keep dogs on. Sure it's easy to
clean but it cause dogs to have very early cases of hip displasia and
arthritis.




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