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ELECTRICAL QUESTION Dave Hembree 11-29-2006
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Posted by Dave Hembree on November 29, 2006, 10:24 pm
We are adding a large addition (2200 sq ft) to our existing 2400 sq ft
home. I will be adding a 200 AMP panel in the new addition that feeds
from the exisitng panel (will likely need to upgrade main service too).
My question is the best way to connect the new panel to the old panel.
The run will be around 100 feet and likely need to be a pretty large
cable. With copper prices through the roof - one electrician has
recommened using aluminum for the 100 ft run (we will use copper 12/2
for all runs from the new panel of course). I remember hearing that
aluminum wiring is bad - is aluminum wiring just a bad idea for the
circuits - but OK for the long run from panel to panel.

Or should I just suck it up and use copper for the 100 ft run??

Posted by Rudy on November 29, 2006, 10:48 pm

>I remember hearing that
> aluminum wiring is bad - is aluminum wiring just a bad idea for the
> circuits - but OK for the long run from panel to panel.

Thats right, its fine for a heavy run to the new panel. He'll use proper AL
connectors of course and no one will be the wiser
>
> Or should I just suck it up and use copper for the 100 ft run??

Its your $$



Posted by tim on November 30, 2006, 8:25 pm

>
>>I remember hearing that
>> aluminum wiring is bad - is aluminum wiring just a bad idea for
>> the circuits - but OK for the long run from panel to panel.
>
> Thats right, its fine for a heavy run to the new panel. He'll
> use proper AL connectors of course and no one will be the wiser
>>
>> Or should I just suck it up and use copper for the 100 ft run??
>
> Its your $$
>
>

Amusing story about copper vs alum. I put myself through college
working for the maint. dept. One job we were doing was new service
entrance and breaker panels for a 50yr old building. All the
raceways and boxes were sized properly for the COPPER wiring planned
for the service entrance (think it was 4/0 - at least was on edge of
break where next size wire meant bigger raceways etc.) Purchasing
agent went looking through his catalog and noticed that next size
larger AL would carry same current at one half price so that is what
he ordered. It was verrry interesting working with those guys trying
to fit the oversized AL into the raceways and into the cable clamps
that were one size too small!

Posted by Matt Whiting on November 30, 2006, 8:51 pm
tim wrote:

>
>
>>>I remember hearing that
>>>aluminum wiring is bad - is aluminum wiring just a bad idea for
>>>the circuits - but OK for the long run from panel to panel.
>>
>>Thats right, its fine for a heavy run to the new panel. He'll
>>use proper AL connectors of course and no one will be the wiser
>>
>>>Or should I just suck it up and use copper for the 100 ft run??
>>
>>Its your $$
>>
>>
>
>
> Amusing story about copper vs alum. I put myself through college
> working for the maint. dept. One job we were doing was new service
> entrance and breaker panels for a 50yr old building. All the
> raceways and boxes were sized properly for the COPPER wiring planned
> for the service entrance (think it was 4/0 - at least was on edge of
> break where next size wire meant bigger raceways etc.) Purchasing
> agent went looking through his catalog and noticed that next size
> larger AL would carry same current at one half price so that is what
> he ordered. It was verrry interesting working with those guys trying
> to fit the oversized AL into the raceways and into the cable clamps
> that were one size too small!

The raceways and/or conduit wasn't sized properly then to begin with. A
properly sized conduit or raceway isn't that close to being full to
start with. Fill factors are almost always 50% or less. If one size
larger wire caused a problem, then the initial design was faulty and did
not meet code.

Then again, this has an urban legend feel to it...


Matt

Posted by tim on December 1, 2006, 7:52 pm

> tim wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>>I remember hearing that
>>>>aluminum wiring is bad - is aluminum wiring just a bad idea
>>>>for the circuits - but OK for the long run from panel to
>>>>panel.
>>>
>>>Thats right, its fine for a heavy run to the new panel. He'll
>>>use proper AL connectors of course and no one will be the wiser
>>>
>>>>Or should I just suck it up and use copper for the 100 ft
>>>>run??
>>>
>>>Its your $$
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Amusing story about copper vs alum. I put myself through
>> college working for the maint. dept. One job we were doing was
>> new service entrance and breaker panels for a 50yr old
>> building. All the raceways and boxes were sized properly for
>> the COPPER wiring planned for the service entrance (think it
>> was 4/0 - at least was on edge of break where next size wire
>> meant bigger raceways etc.) Purchasing agent went looking
>> through his catalog and noticed that next size larger AL would
>> carry same current at one half price so that is what he
>> ordered. It was verrry interesting working with those guys
>> trying to fit the oversized AL into the raceways and into the
>> cable clamps that were one size too small!
>
> The raceways and/or conduit wasn't sized properly then to begin
> with. A properly sized conduit or raceway isn't that close to
> being full to start with. Fill factors are almost always 50% or
> less. If one size larger wire caused a problem, then the
> initial design was faulty and did not meet code.
>
> Then again, this has an urban legend feel to it...
>
>
> Matt
>

It wasn't the full part, it was the bend radius where the conduit
came into the raceway and left the raceway to enter the main
disconnect.

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