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Posted by Dioclese on July 14, 2009, 7:34 am
> On Jul 10, 8:41 am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>> The optimum roof angle for such is approximately 7 on 12 in my area of
>> the
>> woods, and facing south of course. I was thinking of a semi-closed
>> carport
>> design to allow more usage of the structure. Its susceptibility to
>> potential winds is my primary concern for the structure. There is no
>> mandatory building code in my area, current IRC is recommended by most
>> custom builders here and utilized.
> Presumably, the panels can be installed at the optimum angle to the sun
> regardless of your roff pitch. No?
> Dave in Houston
http://www.solarray.com/TechGuides/Racks_T.php
I believe they said a direct roof mount was to be untilized IF I wanted the
solar panels on the roof of the house. See Roof Mounts in the above link
with the composition shingles visible. The mounts are attached directly to
the rafters.
I would go with a tilt-up mount if I went with the separate stucture design
I was talking about, and forget about the 7 on 12 roof.. They finally got
around to telling me about this mount method. They said they don't normally
do so as they normally do residential areas on their roofs. HOAs, and
neighbors to contend with.. I'll have to check with them on the top of pole
mounting, these seems to be the least impact on the ground surface and
little hardware involved.
Dave
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Posted by PeterD on July 14, 2009, 9:09 am
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:34:28 -0500, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>> On Jul 10, 8:41 am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>>> The optimum roof angle for such is approximately 7 on 12 in my area of
>>> the
>>> woods, and facing south of course. I was thinking of a semi-closed
>>> carport
>>> design to allow more usage of the structure. Its susceptibility to
>>> potential winds is my primary concern for the structure. There is no
>>> mandatory building code in my area, current IRC is recommended by most
>>> custom builders here and utilized.
>> Presumably, the panels can be installed at the optimum angle to the sun
>> regardless of your roff pitch. No?
>> Dave in Houston
>http://www.solarray.com/TechGuides/Racks_T.php
>I believe they said a direct roof mount was to be untilized IF I wanted the
>solar panels on the roof of the house. See Roof Mounts in the above link
>with the composition shingles visible. The mounts are attached directly to
>the rafters.
>I would go with a tilt-up mount if I went with the separate stucture design
>I was talking about, and forget about the 7 on 12 roof.. They finally got
>around to telling me about this mount method. They said they don't normally
>do so as they normally do residential areas on their roofs. HOAs, and
>neighbors to contend with..
Living in a HOA governed home is not a wise move if you are not one of
the few who like totally giving up your freedom to your neighbors!
>I'll have to check with them on the top of pole
>mounting, these seems to be the least impact on the ground surface and
>little hardware involved.
How big a panel (or panels) are you mounting? I can imagine that HOAs
and such would be much unhappier with a pole mounted monster than
something on the (hopefully rear) roof.
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Posted by Grasshopper on July 15, 2009, 11:05 am
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:34:28 -0500, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>>> On Jul 10, 8:41 am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>>>> The optimum roof angle for such is approximately 7 on 12 in my area of
>>>> the
>>>> woods, and facing south of course. I was thinking of a semi-closed
>>>> carport
>>>> design to allow more usage of the structure. Its susceptibility to
>>>> potential winds is my primary concern for the structure. There is no
>>>> mandatory building code in my area, current IRC is recommended by most
>>>> custom builders here and utilized.
>>> Presumably, the panels can be installed at the optimum angle to the
>>> sun
>>> regardless of your roff pitch. No?
>>> Dave in Houston
>>http://www.solarray.com/TechGuides/Racks_T.php
>>I believe they said a direct roof mount was to be untilized IF I wanted
>>the
>>solar panels on the roof of the house. See Roof Mounts in the above link
>>with the composition shingles visible. The mounts are attached directly
>>to
>>the rafters.
>>I would go with a tilt-up mount if I went with the separate stucture
>>design
>>I was talking about, and forget about the 7 on 12 roof.. They finally got
>>around to telling me about this mount method. They said they don't
>>normally
>>do so as they normally do residential areas on their roofs. HOAs, and
>>neighbors to contend with..
> Living in a HOA governed home is not a wise move if you are not one of
> the few who like totally giving up your freedom to your neighbors!
>>I'll have to check with them on the top of pole
>>mounting, these seems to be the least impact on the ground surface and
>>little hardware involved.
> How big a panel (or panels) are you mounting? I can imagine that HOAs
> and such would be much unhappier with a pole mounted monster than
> something on the (hopefully rear) roof.
I changed my screen name and signature, don't be alarmed.
I live in a rural area ungoverned by neighbors and a local HOA. Neighbors
and HOAs are just another ingredient in the considerations for a solar
energy system.
I want to use solar panels the company has on sale this month. The
installation company says they must be installed in 5 in a series.
Dimensions are 62.2" X 31.8" X 1.4". See suntech.com. Refer to
STP175S-24/Ab-1 for the exact solar panel.
--
"All men are created equal"
No one said they weren't different.
No one said they would not disagree.
No one said they would not have different perspectives.
No one said they would all work in harmony.
"We the peope" is a collective of all of these.
Dave
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Posted by PeterD on July 15, 2009, 12:23 pm
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:05:27 -0500, "Grasshopper" <NONE> wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:34:28 -0500, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 10, 8:41 am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>>>>> The optimum roof angle for such is approximately 7 on 12 in my area of
>>>>> the
>>>>> woods, and facing south of course. I was thinking of a semi-closed
>>>>> carport
>>>>> design to allow more usage of the structure. Its susceptibility to
>>>>> potential winds is my primary concern for the structure. There is no
>>>>> mandatory building code in my area, current IRC is recommended by most
>>>>> custom builders here and utilized.
>>>> Presumably, the panels can be installed at the optimum angle to the
>>>> sun
>>>> regardless of your roff pitch. No?
>>>> Dave in Houston
>>>http://www.solarray.com/TechGuides/Racks_T.php
>>>I believe they said a direct roof mount was to be untilized IF I wanted
>>>the
>>>solar panels on the roof of the house. See Roof Mounts in the above link
>>>with the composition shingles visible. The mounts are attached directly
>>>to
>>>the rafters.
>>>I would go with a tilt-up mount if I went with the separate stucture
>>>design
>>>I was talking about, and forget about the 7 on 12 roof.. They finally got
>>>around to telling me about this mount method. They said they don't
>>>normally
>>>do so as they normally do residential areas on their roofs. HOAs, and
>>>neighbors to contend with..
>> Living in a HOA governed home is not a wise move if you are not one of
>> the few who like totally giving up your freedom to your neighbors!
>>>I'll have to check with them on the top of pole
>>>mounting, these seems to be the least impact on the ground surface and
>>>little hardware involved.
>> How big a panel (or panels) are you mounting? I can imagine that HOAs
>> and such would be much unhappier with a pole mounted monster than
>> something on the (hopefully rear) roof.
>I changed my screen name and signature, don't be alarmed.
>I live in a rural area ungoverned by neighbors and a local HOA. Neighbors
>and HOAs are just another ingredient in the considerations for a solar
>energy system.
>I want to use solar panels the company has on sale this month. The
>installation company says they must be installed in 5 in a series.
>Dimensions are 62.2" X 31.8" X 1.4". See suntech.com. Refer to
>STP175S-24/Ab-1 for the exact solar panel.
Not small, are they? <g>
I'm lucky here, no HOA within miles (and never will be), and as well,
my house faces north, so the south side is away from the street.
Then again, I've a 30 x 60 garage in the back yard, that's a bit
larger than my next door neighbor's house...
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Posted by Grasshopper on July 17, 2009, 10:35 am
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:05:27 -0500, "Grasshopper" <NONE> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:34:28 -0500, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 10, 8:41 am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>>>>>> The optimum roof angle for such is approximately 7 on 12 in my area
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> woods, and facing south of course. I was thinking of a semi-closed
>>>>>> carport
>>>>>> design to allow more usage of the structure. Its susceptibility to
>>>>>> potential winds is my primary concern for the structure. There is no
>>>>>> mandatory building code in my area, current IRC is recommended by
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> custom builders here and utilized.
>>>>> Presumably, the panels can be installed at the optimum angle to the
>>>>> sun
>>>>> regardless of your roff pitch. No?
>>>>> Dave in Houston
>>>>http://www.solarray.com/TechGuides/Racks_T.php
>>>>I believe they said a direct roof mount was to be untilized IF I wanted
>>>>the
>>>>solar panels on the roof of the house. See Roof Mounts in the above
>>>>link
>>>>with the composition shingles visible. The mounts are attached directly
>>>>to
>>>>the rafters.
>>>>I would go with a tilt-up mount if I went with the separate stucture
>>>>design
>>>>I was talking about, and forget about the 7 on 12 roof.. They finally
>>>>got
>>>>around to telling me about this mount method. They said they don't
>>>>normally
>>>>do so as they normally do residential areas on their roofs. HOAs, and
>>>>neighbors to contend with..
>>> Living in a HOA governed home is not a wise move if you are not one of
>>> the few who like totally giving up your freedom to your neighbors!
>>>>I'll have to check with them on the top of pole
>>>>mounting, these seems to be the least impact on the ground surface and
>>>>little hardware involved.
>>> How big a panel (or panels) are you mounting? I can imagine that HOAs
>>> and such would be much unhappier with a pole mounted monster than
>>> something on the (hopefully rear) roof.
>>I changed my screen name and signature, don't be alarmed.
>>I live in a rural area ungoverned by neighbors and a local HOA. Neighbors
>>and HOAs are just another ingredient in the considerations for a solar
>>energy system.
>>I want to use solar panels the company has on sale this month. The
>>installation company says they must be installed in 5 in a series.
>>Dimensions are 62.2" X 31.8" X 1.4". See suntech.com. Refer to
>>STP175S-24/Ab-1 for the exact solar panel.
> I'm lucky here, no HOA within miles (and never will be), and as well,
> my house faces north, so the south side is away from the street.
> Then again, I've a 30 x 60 garage in the back yard, that's a bit
> larger than my next door neighbor's house...
The solar energy system installation company is from the big city in another
county here. I just got an email this morning from the guy that did the
on-site estimate. He, like me, has put everything on hold due to the
electric cooperative's interconnection policy. In a nutshell, that
interconnection policy says that I, the member of that cooperative, must
have liaiblity insurance in place to not only cover the installation, but
also ongoing insurance for the installation, operation, and maintenance of
that equipment and its interconnection. No dollar numbers were noted were
specified in that requirement except to say that it must be satisfactory.
My sister, who has worked as both private and commercial insurance agent for
over 20 years, says the insurance requirement is worded too broadly and
vaguely to assure that I meet the electric cooperative's liability insurance
requirements.
Another provision, which makes sense on the electric cooperative's end, is
that a switch with a lockout must be installed as part of that installation.
The lockout is to prevent me from closing the switch to connect the solar
energy system to the power coming from the grid. The switch must be easily
accessible by the electric cooperative, which means in my case, that is must
be installed on the utiility pole immediately downstream from the meter and
before the primary breaker box out there. That breaker box supplies the
house, the well pump, and the detached garage on different breakers. So,
for whatever the reason, the electric cooperative can disconnect my solar
energy system from the primary breaker. And, I have to wait till they get
around to reconnecting it at their leisure. So, that means a redesign by
the installer to lockout the electric cooperative's power, and introducing
solar energy system power downstream from that, and all before the primary
breaker box. There's less than one foot between the meter and the breaker
box. That also means I must have a battery backup system in such an event
to use power at night as the electric cooperative's power would be locked
out.
Seems to be a "Pandora's box" everytime I read the electric cooperative's
interconnection policy. Oh, they also have option of changing or
discontinuing that interconnection policy at any time...
--
"All men are created equal"
No one said they weren't different.
No one said they would not disagree.
No one said they would not have different perspectives.
No one said they would all work in harmony.
"We the peope" is a collective of all of these.
Dave
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