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Posted by SparkyGuy on March 25, 2009, 3:55 pm
> Why would you bad mouth a tool or company you have not used or
> know anything about?
>
> Fein, Metabo, Elu, LaMello, and Festool are high end stuff you
> will probably only find at a commercial or specialty tool house.
> I'm sure there are others that I have not used. I would certainly
> not denigrate a brand I don't know without some point of
> reference.
But that's the joy (and advantage) of USENET: badmouthing in public on a
topic that would get you slammed if done face-to-face with your friends or
co-workers. No responsibility.
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Posted by PeterD on March 25, 2009, 6:54 pm
wrote:
>> Why would you bad mouth a tool or company you have not used or
>> know anything about?
>>
>> Fein, Metabo, Elu, LaMello, and Festool are high end stuff you
>> will probably only find at a commercial or specialty tool house.
>> I'm sure there are others that I have not used. I would certainly
>> not denigrate a brand I don't know without some point of
>> reference.
>But that's the joy (and advantage) of USENET: badmouthing in public on a
>topic that would get you slammed if done face-to-face with your friends or
>co-workers. No responsibility.
IIRC, my response was that if they were marketing using infomercials
I'd be reluctant to consider them. At least that was what I was
saying.
Then, after reading some more comments, I retracted that.
That is the joy of Usenet: you can critize me by selectively taking my
comments that you don't like, and ignoring the ones you do.
Anyway for both of you, I'll keep my eyes open for a Fein tool, and if
I see one I'll look it over carefully. Maybe I'll even buy it.
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Posted by HeyBub on March 25, 2009, 9:26 pm
PeterD wrote:
> wrote:
>>> Why would you bad mouth a tool or company you have not used or
>>> know anything about?
>>> Fein, Metabo, Elu, LaMello, and Festool are high end stuff you
>>> will probably only find at a commercial or specialty tool house.
>>> I'm sure there are others that I have not used. I would certainly
>>> not denigrate a brand I don't know without some point of
>>> reference.
>> But that's the joy (and advantage) of USENET: badmouthing in public
>> on a topic that would get you slammed if done face-to-face with your
>> friends or co-workers. No responsibility.
> IIRC, my response was that if they were marketing using infomercials
> I'd be reluctant to consider them. At least that was what I was
> saying.
> Then, after reading some more comments, I retracted that.
> That is the joy of Usenet: you can critize me by selectively taking my
> comments that you don't like, and ignoring the ones you do.
> Anyway for both of you, I'll keep my eyes open for a Fein tool, and if
> I see one I'll look it over carefully. Maybe I'll even buy it.
Again, an almost-equivalent tool is available from Harbor Freight for forty
bucks. I suggest you consider giving the cheaper model a try and, if you
find that it is of significant help in the projects you encounter, then
consider springing for the $300 model from Fein.
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Posted by PeterD on March 26, 2009, 9:42 am
wrote:
>PeterD wrote:
>> wrote:
>>>> Why would you bad mouth a tool or company you have not used or
>>>> know anything about?
>>>> Fein, Metabo, Elu, LaMello, and Festool are high end stuff you
>>>> will probably only find at a commercial or specialty tool house.
>>>> I'm sure there are others that I have not used. I would certainly
>>>> not denigrate a brand I don't know without some point of
>>>> reference.
>>> But that's the joy (and advantage) of USENET: badmouthing in public
>>> on a topic that would get you slammed if done face-to-face with your
>>> friends or co-workers. No responsibility.
>> IIRC, my response was that if they were marketing using infomercials
>> I'd be reluctant to consider them. At least that was what I was
>> saying.
>> Then, after reading some more comments, I retracted that.
>> That is the joy of Usenet: you can critize me by selectively taking my
>> comments that you don't like, and ignoring the ones you do.
>> Anyway for both of you, I'll keep my eyes open for a Fein tool, and if
>> I see one I'll look it over carefully. Maybe I'll even buy it.
>Again, an almost-equivalent tool is available from Harbor Freight for forty
>bucks. I suggest you consider giving the cheaper model a try and, if you
>find that it is of significant help in the projects you encounter, then
>consider springing for the $300 model from Fein.
<g> No, it is not functionality that I questioned... It is the fact
that a manufacturer would resort to infomercials to sell their
product! (If it is not clear yet, I'm not a big fan of infomercials!)
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Posted by on March 26, 2009, 11:55 am
>wrote:
>>PeterD wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Why would you bad mouth a tool or company you have not used or
>>>>> know anything about?
>>>>> Fein, Metabo, Elu, LaMello, and Festool are high end stuff you
>>>>> will probably only find at a commercial or specialty tool house.
>>>>> I'm sure there are others that I have not used. I would certainly
>>>>> not denigrate a brand I don't know without some point of
>>>>> reference.
>>>> But that's the joy (and advantage) of USENET: badmouthing in public
>>>> on a topic that would get you slammed if done face-to-face with your
>>>> friends or co-workers. No responsibility.
>>> IIRC, my response was that if they were marketing using infomercials
>>> I'd be reluctant to consider them. At least that was what I was
>>> saying.
>>> Then, after reading some more comments, I retracted that.
>>> That is the joy of Usenet: you can critize me by selectively taking my
>>> comments that you don't like, and ignoring the ones you do.
>>> Anyway for both of you, I'll keep my eyes open for a Fein tool, and if
>>> I see one I'll look it over carefully. Maybe I'll even buy it.
>>Again, an almost-equivalent tool is available from Harbor Freight for forty
>>bucks. I suggest you consider giving the cheaper model a try and, if you
>>find that it is of significant help in the projects you encounter, then
>>consider springing for the $300 model from Fein.
><g> No, it is not functionality that I questioned... It is the fact
>that a manufacturer would resort to infomercials to sell their
>product! (If it is not clear yet, I'm not a big fan of infomercials!)
Why? Fein has a strong presense in the speciality and professional
lines of distribution. It would take a lot more money and time to
establish a presence in mass merchants. Especially in a tight economy,
when big box stores are probably not in the mood to start promoting
and merchandising something new. This was an easy and fast way to get
directly to the consumer without adding a big debt load to the company
during tight times.
I think it is a smart move on their part. If they sell respectable
numbers via infomercials, it will give them a foot in the door with
Home Depot, Lowes and other big box stores.
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> know anything about?
>
> Fein, Metabo, Elu, LaMello, and Festool are high end stuff you
> will probably only find at a commercial or specialty tool house.
> I'm sure there are others that I have not used. I would certainly
> not denigrate a brand I don't know without some point of
> reference.