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Finishing garage with truss roof system Jim 05-14-2007
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Posted by Jim on May 14, 2007, 11:48 am
Hello!

I recently purchased a house in Upstate, NY with a 2x4 roof truss
system in a detached garage. The interior dimensions of the garage
are roughly 24' x 24', and the trusses are constructed using plates to
connect the 2x4s. There is no bottom center support -- it looks like
two 12' 2x4s are connected at the middle via a plate on each truss.
Finally, the trusses are spaced 24" on center.

The garage has been in place for around 15 years, so it's plenty
sturdy. I've begun finishing the garage, but I just gave some thought
to whether the truss system will be able to handle the additional
weight of insulation and sheetrock that will be used? The attic space
won't be used for anything other than light storage. Any information
or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

--Jim.


Posted by HerHusband on May 14, 2007, 5:10 pm
> I recently purchased a house in Upstate, NY with a 2x4 roof truss
> system in a detached garage. The interior dimensions of the garage
> are roughly 24' x 24', and the trusses are constructed using plates to
> connect the 2x4s. There is no bottom center support -- it looks like
> two 12' 2x4s are connected at the middle via a plate on each truss.
> Finally, the trusses are spaced 24" on center.

> I just gave some thought to whether the truss system will be able
> to handle the additional weight of insulation and sheetrock that
> will be used?

There's no way to know for certain without the specs from the company that
made the truss. I had to include the truss specifications with my building
permit, so you might be able to get that info from your local building
department if you do not have a copy of the plans (for a research fee, I'm
sure). The truss may also be stamped with the company name, in which case
they might have records of that truss.

In any case, every roof truss I have seen has always been designed for at
least 10 pounds dead load on the bottom chord of the truss. A 4x8 sheet of
5/8" sheetrock probably weighs less than 80 pounds. That should work out to
about 2.5 pounds per square foot. With insulation I'm guessing you'd still
be under 3 psf (insulation is rather light). That still leaves plenty of
capacity for light fixtures, garage door tracks and openers, etc.

> The attic space won't be used for anything other than light storage.

Personally, I wouldn't store anything on the bottom chord of a truss unless
the truss was specifically designed to carry that load. But that's me.

You would probably be fine putting christmas decorations, spare pvc pipe,
or fishing poles up there. But, don't try storing your collection of old
magazines, books, that old boat motor, cans of paint, or other heavy
objects. It probably wouldn't be a problem 999 times out of 1000, but it
only takes that 1 time for things to fail. :)

Anthony


Posted by Bob Morrison on May 14, 2007, 5:49 pm
In a previous post HerHusband wrote...
> > I recently purchased a house in Upstate, NY with a 2x4 roof truss
> > system in a detached garage. The interior dimensions of the garage
> > are roughly 24' x 24', and the trusses are constructed using plates to
> > connect the 2x4s. There is no bottom center support -- it looks like
> > two 12' 2x4s are connected at the middle via a plate on each truss.
> > Finally, the trusses are spaced 24" on center.
>
> > I just gave some thought to whether the truss system will be able
> > to handle the additional weight of insulation and sheetrock that
> > will be used?
>
> There's no way to know for certain without the specs from the company that
> made the truss. I had to include the truss specifications with my building
> permit, so you might be able to get that info from your local building
> department if you do not have a copy of the plans (for a research fee, I'm
> sure). The truss may also be stamped with the company name, in which case
> they might have records of that truss.
>
> In any case, every roof truss I have seen has always been designed for at
> least 10 pounds dead load on the bottom chord of the truss. A 4x8 sheet of
> 5/8" sheetrock probably weighs less than 80 pounds. That should work out to
> about 2.5 pounds per square foot. With insulation I'm guessing you'd still
> be under 3 psf (insulation is rather light). That still leaves plenty of
> capacity for light fixtures, garage door tracks and openers, etc.
>
> > The attic space won't be used for anything other than light storage.
>
> Personally, I wouldn't store anything on the bottom chord of a truss unless
> the truss was specifically designed to carry that load. But that's me.
>

Anthony has given a most excellent answer!


--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com

Posted by Dave on May 14, 2007, 11:07 pm
> Hello!
>
> I recently purchased a house in Upstate, NY with a 2x4 roof truss
> system in a detached garage. The interior dimensions of the garage
> are roughly 24' x 24', and the trusses are constructed using plates to
> connect the 2x4s. There is no bottom center support -- it looks like
> two 12' 2x4s are connected at the middle via a plate on each truss.
> Finally, the trusses are spaced 24" on center.
>
> The garage has been in place for around 15 years, so it's plenty
> sturdy. I've begun finishing the garage, but I just gave some thought
> to whether the truss system will be able to handle the additional
> weight of insulation and sheetrock that will be used? The attic space
> won't be used for anything other than light storage. Any information
> or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
> --Jim.
>

The builder failed to showup the day they dropped off the trusses for my
house in building progress. I happened to be at the building site, told the
guy where to drop off the trusses. The paperwork the driver provided
included the layout of each truss type (hip roof) and so forth, and dwgs of
each. On the last page was a disclaimer regarding using the resulting attic
space for storage.
Dave



Posted by Jim on May 21, 2007, 4:31 pm
Thanks to all for the replies! I'll try to find out the truss specs
from the bldg. dept. Out of curiosity (and not wanting to get killed)
-- if there *is* a problem with the trusses, will there generally be
some sign before there's a "real" problem. In other words, will I see
a crack in the ceiling before there's a catastrophic failure and the
roof falls down on my head?

Many thanks again,

--Jim.


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