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Floor joist support ttkend 10-28-2009
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Posted by RicodJour on October 29, 2009, 10:00 pm


> So, he must have to look at the tables for "dead loads" I take it.
> I assume they have those, unless that would have to be an engineers call.
> Like putting a water bed on the second floor or a piano.
> I do know that most floor loads in the books are always tested high also.
> I am sure they can take more if need be.

The tables show only distributed loads, not point loads. Point loads
require calculation and won't be in any table. Not only ultimate
strength will have to be determined, with a factor of safety of
course, but shear and deflection. The deflection won't be a problem
most likely. Having the load near the wall minimizes the risk, but if
the guy wants to look into it he should do it the right way. That
link gives a good overview of how to do it.

R

Posted by DD_BobK on November 1, 2009, 5:29 pm


> > So, he must have to look at the tables for "dead loads" I take it.
> > I assume they have those, unless that would have to be an engineers cal=
l.
> > Like putting a water bed on the second floor or a piano.
> > I do know that most floor loads in the books are always tested high als=
o.
> > I am sure they can take more if need be.
> The tables show only distributed loads, not point loads. =A0Point loads
> require calculation and won't be in any table. =A0Not only ultimate
> strength will have to be determined, with a factor of safety of
> course, but shear and deflection. =A0The deflection won't be a problem
> most likely. =A0Having the load near the wall minimizes the risk, but if
> the guy wants to look into it he should do it the right way. =A0That
> link gives a good overview of how to do it.
> R


OP-

What is the TOTAL weight of the entire fireplace installation?
Framing, fireplace insert & all the finishes (rock face)?

If the load is in the 600 lb range .....13 ft span at 40 psf is 520
but you have more like a concentrated load (really a local
distributied load)

Just a SWAG but one sistered joist wouldn't be enough, two would
probably be ok, three would definitely do it. But to be sure you need
to do ( or have done) some calcs. That means....get it looked at.

I'd open up the floor or the ceiling below & sister in the joists.

cheers
Bob

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