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Forced air vs baseboard water system in heating/cooling Existential Angst 10-26-2009
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Posted by DD_BobK on October 26, 2009, 8:32 pm
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I may be mistaken but I'm getting the vibe that you have pretty mcuh
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ah, that would be the water - air heater exchanger of which I spoke &
the point at which condensation must be dealt with
I think you need to read my post more carefully
cheers
Bob
Posted by Doug Miller on October 26, 2009, 7:58 pm
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Depends a *lot* on what type of baseboard heaters you have. Finned-tube
baseboard heaters don't seem to deliver nearly as much heat as the solid
cast-iron types. My house has a combination of both: mostly iron, and a few
finned-tube heaters in areas that were remodeled long after original
construction. The iron ones take longer to heat up -- but they also take a lot
longer to cool off, which makes for a much more even heat. I wouldn't trade
them. When we remodeled the kitchen a few years ago, I removed the finned-tube
heaters that someone had installed in the 1980s and replaced them with more
cast-iron units; the kitchen is now *much* more comfortable than it was.
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Posted by Ed Pawlowski on October 26, 2009, 10:09 pm
> Depends a *lot* on what type of baseboard heaters you have. Finned-tube
> baseboard heaters don't seem to deliver nearly as much heat as the solid
> cast-iron types. My house has a combination of both: mostly iron, and a
> few
> finned-tube heaters in areas that were remodeled long after original
> construction. The iron ones take longer to heat up -- but they also take a
> lot
> longer to cool off, which makes for a much more even heat. I wouldn't
> trade
> them. When we remodeled the kitchen a few years ago, I removed the
> finned-tube
> heaters that someone had installed in the 1980s and replaced them with
> more
> cast-iron units; the kitchen is now *much* more comfortable than it was.
I hope they are on different zones. Putting the two types together on the
same zone makes for poor temperature control for the reasons you state. The
CI does not need the circulator running as much once heated. I'm not sure
of the cost difference, but sometime in the 60's, the finned tube became
much more predominant. Wish I had the CI in my house.
Posted by PeterD on October 26, 2009, 7:08 pm
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:28:13 -0400, "Existential Angst"
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But, difficult to install, and block a lot of wall space where
furnature might go. I've mixed feelign on them, have baseboards in my
(current) house, and like them, but also still like forced hot air.
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Personally I'm not sure this is practical.
Posted by Existential Angst on October 26, 2009, 7:33 pm
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I believe I have seen baseboard heating recessed into the ball/baseboard.
Altho this probably hinders the natural convection process that makes
baseboard heaters more effective.
Ultimately, Da Heating Bomb is radiant floor heating -- altho god help the
home-moaner if a leak is sprung.
And, not easily retrofitted.
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And not cheap.
It seems like, from the responses here and elsewhere, that it simply is not
done residentially, even among the rich. Not sure, but that's the
impression I'm getting.
In the big complexes where they do run chilled water into fan units in apts,
I think they get away with this because 99.99% of the piping is vertical,
with just itty bitty Tee'd length of pipe going to the units, and then
condensate pans proly collect the small amount of condensate from these T's,
and dump it with the condensate from the coils/fins.
This would proly have to mimic'd pretty accurately in a home, and then only
in new construction.
But if there are secrets to doing this post-construction in homes, I'm all
ears.
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