Home Page link

Foundation - matching existing house

Building Construction - Building Construction Industry Discussions. 

Page 1 of 2       1 2 > last >> Bookmark this page:  YahooMyWeb Yahoo!  Google Google  Windows Live Favorites Windows Live  del.icio.us del.icio.us  digg digg  Add to Netscape Netscape
Subject Author Date
Foundation - matching existing house Barold 01-09-2008
If you were  Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
Posted by Barold on January 9, 2008, 12:47 pm
Hi -

I have a two-story home with a concrete slab on grade floor with
radiant heat. The foundation is a four feet deep (upstate New York)
frost line footer. I am putting on a one-story addition on the back
of the house and would like a concrete floor with radiant heat in that
part of the house as well.

The way I see it, my options and concerns are as follows:

An addition with a four foot frost wall foundation and concrete slab
like the rest of the house. I think this would be most solid, but
most costly.

A monolithic slab. I'm concerned that this slab butting up against a
slab on a frost wall foundation will move up and down during freeze/
thaw periods and cause problems where the roof and walls anchor to the
existing house.

A pole framed addition with a concrete slab floor poured separately.
Similar concerns to those above, but the cheapest of the three
options.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

Barry

Posted by marson on January 9, 2008, 8:06 pm
> Hi -
>
> I have a two-story home with a concrete slab on grade floor with
> radiant heat. The foundation is a four feet deep (upstate New York)
> frost line footer. I am putting on a one-story addition on the back
> of the house and would like a concrete floor with radiant heat in that
> part of the house as well.
>
> The way I see it, my options and concerns are as follows:
>
> An addition with a four foot frost wall foundation and concrete slab
> like the rest of the house. I think this would be most solid, but
> most costly.
>
> A monolithic slab. I'm concerned that this slab butting up against a
> slab on a frost wall foundation will move up and down during freeze/
> thaw periods and cause problems where the roof and walls anchor to the
> existing house.
>
> A pole framed addition with a concrete slab floor poured separately.
> Similar concerns to those above, but the cheapest of the three
> options.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Barry

I wouldn't be comfortable with anything but the walls below frost
depth. Even with frost protection, it seems possible that a floating
slab with move a bit. A pole framed addition seems more appropriate
for a barn or a shed than a house.

Posted by Dave in Houston on January 9, 2008, 9:56 pm

>> I have a two-story home with a concrete slab on grade floor with
>> radiant heat. The foundation is a four feet deep (upstate New York)
>> frost line footer. I am putting on a one-story addition on the back
>> of the house and would like a concrete floor with radiant heat in that
>> part of the house as well.
>>
>> The way I see it, my options and concerns are as follows:
>>
>> An addition with a four foot frost wall foundation and concrete slab
>> like the rest of the house. I think this would be most solid, but
>> most costly.
>>
>> A monolithic slab. I'm concerned that this slab butting up against a
>> slab on a frost wall foundation will move up and down during freeze/
>> thaw periods and cause problems where the roof and walls anchor to the
>> existing house.
>>
>> A pole framed addition with a concrete slab floor poured separately.
>> Similar concerns to those above, but the cheapest of the three
>> options.
>>
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

Common practice is to drill multiple holes into the existing slab in
order to epoxy rebar in order to tie the new foundation pour to the existing
slab. I'm in Texas but would guess you're still going to need foundation
walls below frost line.

--
NuWave Dave in Houston



Posted by Barold on January 10, 2008, 11:14 am
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi -
>
> > I have a two-story home with a concrete slab on grade floor with
> > radiant heat. =A0The foundation is a four feet deep (upstate New York)
> > frost line footer. =A0I am putting on a one-story addition on the back
> > of the house and would like a concrete floor with radiant heat in that
> > part of the house as well.
>
> > The way I see it, my options and concerns are as follows:
>
> > An addition with a four foot frost wall foundation and concrete slab
> > like the rest of the house. =A0I think this would be most solid, but
> > most costly.
>
> > A monolithic slab. =A0I'm concerned that this slab butting up against a
> > slab on a frost wall foundation will move up and down during freeze/
> > thaw periods and cause problems where the roof and walls anchor to the
> > existing house.
>
> > A pole framed addition with a concrete slab floor poured separately.
> > Similar concerns to those above, but the cheapest of the three
> > options.
>
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated. =A0Thanks.
>
> > Barry
>
> I wouldn't be comfortable with anything but the walls below frost
> depth. =A0Even with frost protection, it seems possible that a floating
> slab with move a bit. =A0A pole framed addition seems more appropriate
> for a barn or a shed than a house.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I see your point. what is you thought about it more as a concrete
porch that is screened in. If I were to build something like that,
pole construction would be more appropriate, yes?



Posted by marson on January 10, 2008, 8:19 pm
>
>
>
>
> > > Hi -
>
> > > I have a two-story home with a concrete slab on grade floor with
> > > radiant heat. The foundation is a four feet deep (upstate New York)
> > > frost line footer. I am putting on a one-story addition on the back
> > > of the house and would like a concrete floor with radiant heat in that
> > > part of the house as well.
>
> > > The way I see it, my options and concerns are as follows:
>
> > > An addition with a four foot frost wall foundation and concrete slab
> > > like the rest of the house. I think this would be most solid, but
> > > most costly.
>
> > > A monolithic slab. I'm concerned that this slab butting up against a
> > > slab on a frost wall foundation will move up and down during freeze/
> > > thaw periods and cause problems where the roof and walls anchor to the
> > > existing house.
>
> > > A pole framed addition with a concrete slab floor poured separately.
> > > Similar concerns to those above, but the cheapest of the three
> > > options.
>
> > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> > > Barry
>
> > I wouldn't be comfortable with anything but the walls below frost
> > depth. Even with frost protection, it seems possible that a floating
> > slab with move a bit. A pole framed addition seems more appropriate
> > for a barn or a shed than a house.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I see your point. what is you thought about it more as a concrete
> porch that is screened in. If I were to build something like that,
> pole construction would be more appropriate, yes?

Well, some half formed thoughts....

If what you want is an addition to your house, then it feels to me
like a pole building is a hillbilly approach. If you want to side,
insulate, sheetrock in a pole building, a lot of the cost saving from
not having to put in a foundation are going to be offset. Also, how is
the roof going to work? I'm having a hard time picturing how a pole
barn roof would tie into an existing roof.

Course, I can't see your house so I don't know what it is worth.
Maybe resale absolutely doesn't matter to you, but if you do sell it,
what will potential buyers think? I know I would not like to buy a
house with a pole addition on it.

I guess my second choice after frost footings would be a shallow frost
protected slab on grade. I'd talk to an engineer about it, though.


Page 1 of 2       1 2 > last >>
Similar ThreadsPosted
Matching existing roof July 31, 2007, 10:22 am
Basement Entry Door - via new construction or existing foundation April 13, 2007, 2:56 pm
Help on constructing a new floor is existing house. February 27, 2007, 12:32 pm
New house foundation - Decaying??? March 11, 2007, 11:06 pm
unusual house foundation - what? September 13, 2007, 9:28 am
Matching drywall thickness to adjacent plaster April 23, 2007, 7:01 am
What are the different types of house foundation types and when to use each? July 27, 2007, 4:00 am
Need to remove my existing driveway April 21, 2007, 10:59 pm
Extending existing wall studs February 21, 2007, 2:07 pm
Existing Water Tank Support August 28, 2007, 9:23 pm

Contact Us | Privacy Policy

XML SitemapXML Sitemap