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Foundation question for a modular home Robertcode 08-30-2006
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Posted by Bob Morrison on August 30, 2006, 9:06 pm
In a previous post Robertcode wrote...
> Bob, could you translate that in to English for the uneducated in
> Construction? ;)
>
> > An additional follow-up. I now remember the distinction between
> > "modular" and "mobile/manufactured" homes.
> >
> > The former can set on conventional foundations with pony walls provided
> > that there is an adequate lateral force connection between the module and
> > the pony wall/foundation. If properly designed this can be a quick and
> > economical form of construction.
>

1. Contractor pours concrete walls on a footing to a minimum of 6" above
the dirt. The wall and footing will be shaped like an inverted "T".

2. Where the concrete is lower than the required height, the contractor
frames a wood wall on top of the concrete.

3. The modular unit is set on top of the walls -- either wood or
concrete.

4. The modular units are connected directly to the concrete where possible
using embedded anchor bolts. Note: I have seen where there is a pressure
treated piece of wood bolted to the concrete and then the unit is attached
to that. This is acceptable is the connection has been correctly
designed.

5. If supported by a wood wall, the modular units are connected to the
wood framing. This connection must be capable of resisting wind and
seismic forces. The wood wall below (pony wall) must also be capable of
resisting these forces.

All of this work should be performed according to a Building Department
approved plan. That plan may have an engineer's seal on it and it may
not. In the US, most jurisdictions would require an engineer's seal.
These documents are public records and if they exist should be available
for your inspection.

Does that help?

--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com

Posted by Robertcode on August 30, 2006, 9:24 pm
So, if I understand you correctly it'd be like the basement for one
house is concrete and the other is wood walled?

So it sort of ends up looking like this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/TrickyNinja/newside.png

Bob Morrison wrote:
> In a previous post Robertcode wrote...
> > Bob, could you translate that in to English for the uneducated in
> > Construction? ;)
> >
> > > An additional follow-up. I now remember the distinction between
> > > "modular" and "mobile/manufactured" homes.
> > >
> > > The former can set on conventional foundations with pony walls provided
> > > that there is an adequate lateral force connection between the module and
> > > the pony wall/foundation. If properly designed this can be a quick and
> > > economical form of construction.
> >
>
> 1. Contractor pours concrete walls on a footing to a minimum of 6" above
> the dirt. The wall and footing will be shaped like an inverted "T".
>
> 2. Where the concrete is lower than the required height, the contractor
> frames a wood wall on top of the concrete.
>
> 3. The modular unit is set on top of the walls -- either wood or
> concrete.
>
> 4. The modular units are connected directly to the concrete where possible
> using embedded anchor bolts. Note: I have seen where there is a pressure
> treated piece of wood bolted to the concrete and then the unit is attached
> to that. This is acceptable is the connection has been correctly
> designed.
>
> 5. If supported by a wood wall, the modular units are connected to the
> wood framing. This connection must be capable of resisting wind and
> seismic forces. The wood wall below (pony wall) must also be capable of
> resisting these forces.
>
> All of this work should be performed according to a Building Department
> approved plan. That plan may have an engineer's seal on it and it may
> not. In the US, most jurisdictions would require an engineer's seal.
> These documents are public records and if they exist should be available
> for your inspection.
>
> Does that help?
>
> --
> Bob Morrison, PE, SE
> R L Morrison Engineering Co
> Structural & Civil Engineering
> Poulsbo WA
> bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com


Posted by Bob Morrison on August 31, 2006, 1:51 pm
In a previous post Robertcode wrote...
> So, if I understand you correctly it'd be like the basement for one
> house is concrete and the other is wood walled?
>
>

That is correct.

--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com

Posted by Robertcode on August 31, 2006, 7:29 pm
Ok, thanks everyone who responded I was really lost and couldn't figure
out what the Hell they were doing, but now I feel better about it.

Thanks again for the help.


Bob Morrison wrote:
> In a previous post Robertcode wrote...
> > So, if I understand you correctly it'd be like the basement for one
> > house is concrete and the other is wood walled?
> >
> >
>
> That is correct.
>
> --
> Bob Morrison, PE, SE
> R L Morrison Engineering Co
> Structural & Civil Engineering
> Poulsbo WA
> bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com


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