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Posted by on July 17, 2007, 9:29 am
> On Jul 16, 8:54 pm, spebby...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> > First I would like to thank the members of this forum for taking time
> > to answer my previous questions.
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> > I am a little confused about nails or more specifically the
> > availability of certain size nails. I am framing an attached garage
> > and according to the IRC 2003 code, for example, when face nailing a
> > stud to the base plate 2 16d common nails are required or 3 12d common
> > nails. A 16d common nail is 3 1/2" x .162 diameter. A 12d common
> > nail is 3 1/4" x .131 dia. I assume the difference is for shear
> > strength. I was looking at framing nailers and some only shoot a 3
> > 1/4" nail and those that shoot a 3 1/2" nail, the 3 1/2" nail is only .
> > 131 in diameter. I could not find any 3 1/2" nails at the big box
> > stores and didn't find any at a lumber yard. My framing gun is an old
> > Senco SN325 which shoots a max. 3 1/4" clip head nail. I plan on
> > replacing it but I am at a loss as to which gun to buy. I don't want
> > to use a clip headed nail on sheathing.
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> > 1) Any recommendation on framing guns? Should I insist on a gun that
> > shoots a 16d common nail?
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> You won't find a gun that I know of that will shoot a 16d common. If
> you do, I have know idea where you will find nails. In fact, even 16d
> commons aren't really readily available as hand bangers--ask for a box
> of 16's and you will get 16d sinkers. I like Hitachi or Paslode for
> framing nailers. I prefer clipped head for everything. I've owned
> both and clipped head jam less and the clips are more durable IMO
> (makes them easier to carry in a tool belt). In some areas of the
> country (again, probably seismic or high wind areas) round head are
> used more commonly and may even be required by building inspectors.
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> > 2) If code requires a 3 1/2" x .162 nail for the minimun number of
> > nails, why are they not more readily available?
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> Don't really see the problem here. If you are using a nail gun, seems
> like you will need to use three nails, which will still be light years
> faster than hand nailing it. I always use three nails stud to
> plate.
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> > 3) Where do framers who frame to code find their nails?
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> Lumberyards, Home Depot, Menards. Some brands have "code compliant"
> written on the box.
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> > 4) Do inspectors really look at nail size and number of nails?
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> Hasn't happened to me yet but where I live we don't get hurricanes or
> earthquakes. Unless an inspector happens to show up while you are in
> the act of building a wall, it's kind of a hard detail to inspect.
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> In practice, the increased number of nails you use when using a gun
> versus hand nailing far outweighs the fact that they are usually 12d
> nails instead of 16d. You'll find this out when you have to take
> apart your mistakes.
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> > I have read several discussions on this topic but I am still
> > confused. Most discussions have concluded buy a gun that shoots 3 1/2
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Thanks marson for the through reply. If the standard practice is to
use 12d with 3 nails on studs and 5 attaching the ceiling joists to
the stop plate that is what I will do.
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