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Framing required for 7x16 garage door?? Steel beam? 41roblynway 09-29-2008
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Posted by Matt Whiting on October 1, 2008, 8:06 pm


DanG wrote:
> It isn't rocket science to provide an adequate header over a
> garage door. It is a standard opening. I thought Dioclese gave
> some pretty good advice. Most double 2x12 headers belly out
> within 10 years with no load on them, just not adequate for the
> span, drive up and down a subdivision and pay attention to double
> car garage door headers. A flitch beam, LVL or other manufactured
> beam, some form of box beam, or a reinforced 2x12 beam will be
> required. The name of this group is construction after all.

I don't recall him saying where his garage is to be located. Maybe I
missed it. If it is located in Arizona, that is one thing. If it is
located in Leadville that is something else entirely. Yes, it isn't
rocket science, but doing it correctly requires more than a SWAG on a
newsgroup.

Matt

Posted by Steve Barker DLT on October 1, 2008, 11:03 pm


THE location is of no consequence. What DOES matter is what is above the
door. Other than that, it's simple to figure.

s


> DanG wrote:
>> It isn't rocket science to provide an adequate header over a garage door.
>> It is a standard opening. I thought Dioclese gave some pretty good
>> advice. Most double 2x12 headers belly out within 10 years with no load
>> on them, just not adequate for the span, drive up and down a subdivision
>> and pay attention to double car garage door headers. A flitch beam, LVL
>> or other manufactured beam, some form of box beam, or a reinforced 2x12
>> beam will be required. The name of this group is construction after all.
> I don't recall him saying where his garage is to be located. Maybe I
> missed it. If it is located in Arizona, that is one thing. If it is
> located in Leadville that is something else entirely. Yes, it isn't
> rocket science, but doing it correctly requires more than a SWAG on a
> newsgroup.
> Matt



Posted by Big_Jake on September 30, 2008, 6:07 pm


On Sep 30, 7:07=A0am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
> > Hi, just wondering if I need a steel beam to go across the header for
> > my planned garage door that I am going to frame into an existing
> > detached workshop. Or, can I just use some 2x4s or 2x10s? Single
> > story, shingle roof, wood siding, garage to be 7x16 feet, aluminum.
> > Thanks,
> > Rob
> You'll need 2 yellow pine 2X12s #2 or better, and one full sheet of 1/2" =
CDX
> plywood. =A0Cut a 8' length of plywood 11" wide. =A0Along that same edge =
you cut
> the prior piece of plywood, cut another. =A0Cut the 2nd piece of plywood =
4',
> or in half. =A0Cut both 2X12s to length.
> Lay one 2X12 on a flat surface. =A0Find the center lengthwise. =A0Using
> carpenters glue (you'll need lots of it), cover an area 4' either way fro=
m
> the center. =A0Do not spread the glue in any manner. =A0Carefully place t=
he 8'
> section of plywood lengthwise over the glue. =A0Stabilize with a handful =
of
> 3/4" brass wood screws. =A0Do the same on either end of the 2X12 with the
> remaining 2 four foot sections of plywood. =A0Verify the crown on both 2X=
12s.
> Place the 2X12 with the plywood attached on 4 saw horses spread apart in =
an
> equal fashion where the 2X12 ends are about 2' past the end saw horses.
> Liberally apply carpenters glue to the plywood surface. =A0Place the othe=
r
> 2X12 over the plywood assuring the crown is up like the bottom 2X12. =A0A=
ttach
> with 3.5" stainless steel wood screws. =A0Do not countersink, flush only.=
=A0Use
> 4 screws every 2 feet, 3 screws every 1 foot between the sets of 4 screws=
.
> You'll need a person on the loose end of the 2X12 to work it back and for=
th.
> As you progress to the other end, you will need pipe clamps to work it ba=
ck
> and forth. =A0Get the bottom flush, not the top, if they are slightly
> different in size. =A0Allow the glue to dry 24 hours before using the hea=
der.
> 2X12 selection considerations are not to select any with visible twisting=
or
> warping. =A0Do not select a perfectly straight example, you want one with=
some
> crown. =A0The crown is the spring that gives as weight is placed on it. =
=A0Nor
> do you want one with excessive crown.
> Just a few comments. =A07 feet is awfully tight, even for a compact car's
> length. =A0Don't see how you're going to get any wall lateral stability o=
n the
> side where the garage door is going. =A0The whole wall is the garage door
> frame and door.
> --
> Dave

Brass and stainless screws?? WTF? Why not use 16d nails? I have
never seen an engineering drawing that spec'd wood screws for
something structural.

JK

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