Garage Framing Question

Posted by wrldruler on August 21, 2008, 3:54 pm

Hello,

I am converting my garage into a living room, and have a question
about framing.

I have 11 foot ceilings, soon to be 10 foot once I add the floor. 7'
is 2x4, and the bottom
3' is concrete block.

Of course, the block sticks out further than the 2x4. I need advice
on
how best to even this wall out. I want to add a 1x3 or 2x3 frame from
floor to ceiling, and then drywall.

I've been told that 4" of insuation (R13) is enough, so I do not
intend to bring out the 2x4
any further.

This new frame will be flush against my block, but there will be a
7"+
gap between the frame and the 2x4's.

Two questions:

(1) Will a 1x3 frame be strong enough to support 10' of drywall? Or
do
I need a 2x3?

(2) What do I do with the 7"+ gap between the frame and the existing
2x4's? Do I leave it alone, pack with more insulation ???

Thanks,

Chris

Posted by PeterD on August 22, 2008, 9:49 am

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:54:37 -0700 (PDT), wrldruler

>Hello,
>I am converting my garage into a living room, and have a question
>about framing.
>I have 11 foot ceilings, soon to be 10 foot once I add the floor. 7'
>is 2x4, and the bottom
>3' is concrete block.
>Of course, the block sticks out further than the 2x4. I need advice
>on
>how best to even this wall out. I want to add a 1x3 or 2x3 frame from
>floor to ceiling, and then drywall.
>I've been told that 4" of insuation (R13) is enough, so I do not
>intend to bring out the 2x4
>any further.
>This new frame will be flush against my block, but there will be a
>7"+
>gap between the frame and the 2x4's.
>Two questions:
>(1) Will a 1x3 frame be strong enough to support 10' of drywall? Or
>do I need a 2x3?

10'? 2x4... Talk to your local building inspector. You might get away
with 2x3, but for 10' I doubt it. I wouldn't try, myself.

>(2) What do I do with the 7"+ gap between the frame and the existing
>2x4's? Do I leave it alone, pack with more insulation ???

A stepped wall perhaps?

>Thanks,
>Chris

Posted by Jonathan Wye on September 2, 2008, 10:41 pm

On 8/21/08 3:54 PM, in article
94e49b4b-5940-4722-8ab6-01492d75bef4@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com,

> Hello,
>
> I am converting my garage into a living room, and have a question
> about framing.
>
> I have 11 foot ceilings, soon to be 10 foot once I add the floor. 7'
> is 2x4, and the bottom
> 3' is concrete block.
>
> Of course, the block sticks out further than the 2x4. I need advice
> on
> how best to even this wall out. I want to add a 1x3 or 2x3 frame from
> floor to ceiling, and then drywall.
>
> I've been told that 4" of insuation (R13) is enough, so I do not
> intend to bring out the 2x4
> any further.
>
> This new frame will be flush against my block, but there will be a
> 7"+
> gap between the frame and the 2x4's.
>
> Two questions:
>
> (1) Will a 1x3 frame be strong enough to support 10' of drywall? Or
> do
> I need a 2x3?
>
> (2) What do I do with the 7"+ gap between the frame and the existing
> 2x4's? Do I leave it alone, pack with more insulation ???
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris

You might consider using the inboard edge of the block wall up to about 36
inches above the floor then stepping back to the original 2 x 4 wall line,
thus creating a shelf as the other responder mentioned, this would provide
place for display around the room, trophies, knick knacks, etc. common in
relaxation areas, plus by staying closer to a regular wall thickness you'll
make trimming windows, etc. much easier.

Come to think of it though, if you make the rest of the wall at least 6
inches thick, you'll save on heating down the line with the additional
insulation you'll be able to use.

Good luck,

Jonathan

-- I've posted some articles I've written at:
http://hubpages.com/_2glb5hcwnzuvq/hub/Storm-surge--a-killer-side-effect
Please check them out.

Similar Threads	Posted
Framing required for 7x16 garage door?? Steel beam?	September 29, 2008, 12:52 pm
Roofing framing question	July 10, 2007, 2:10 pm
Question on Framing Exterior Corner	May 28, 2007, 2:52 pm
Slab on grade framing question...	July 26, 2007, 10:54 pm
Subfloor framing.	August 19, 2006, 5:01 pm
Framing Hammers	December 20, 2006, 12:21 pm
Octagon Framing: Then and Now?	April 29, 2007, 4:38 pm
Framing nailer	May 18, 2008, 11:57 am
Best source for shiplap and framing	November 21, 2006, 11:17 am
framing guns (poll)	November 28, 2006, 6:06 pm