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Garden Hose for transfer of K1 Oil ? James 05-10-2009
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Posted by Cwatters on May 12, 2009, 6:51 am

>>>>>>>>>I need to transfer K1 kerosene from my delivery trailer to my
>>>>>>>>>tank 50 ft
>>>>>>>>> away. I have priced hoses made for fuels, and a 50 ft length
>>>>>>>>> is $200-300.
>>>>>>>>> Any reason why I cannot us a commercial grade, 3/4 inch hose
>>>>>>>>> like the one
>>>>>>>>> shown in this link ? This hose would be used **only** for
>>>>>>>>> this purpose,
>>>>>>>>> and would be used no more than two times a year.
>>>>>>>>> Any comments or advice would be welcome.
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>> http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_697
>>>>>>>>> 0_ 20 0218424_200218424
>>>>>>>>>I'm sure it's not the proper thing to use. The fuel probably
>>>>>>>>>deteriorates the hose material. There's probably 20 federal laws
>>>>>>>>>prohibiting it's use, but I've been dumping about 500 gallons of
>>>>>>>>>heating oil from an above ground tank to an underground tank each
>>>>>>>>>year for about five years now, using a cheap garden hose and a
>>>>>>>>>gear pump. I just make sure to keep a close eye out for problems
>>>>>>>>>while the transfer is going on
>>>>>>> I'm just curious: what kind of 'problems' do you keep an eye out
>>>>>>> for that you can actually solve after you visually note them
>>>>>>> happening?
>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>> City inspectors maybe.
>>>>> If you need to look over your shoulder in fear of an inspector
>>>>> checking the type of hose you're using, it time to move
>>>> I meant the fact of private citizen pumping oil into the
>>>> ground...tank or not.
>>> Private citizen pumping privately owned oil from one privately owned
>>> tank to another privately owned tank on private property...privately,
>>> just to clarify
>> Well in some Granola-head states, when it comes to anything to do with
>> oil and the ground there is no such thing as "privately".
> I hear you just fine. The whole country is becoming a nanny state.

Neighbour of mine had an oil leak recently and lost the contents of their
heating oil tank into the ground. The clean up operation has taken a two
weeks so far and is costing them a small fortune not to mention the fine.



Posted by HeyBub on May 12, 2009, 9:27 am
Cwatters wrote:
>> I hear you just fine. The whole country is becoming a nanny state.
> Neighbour of mine had an oil leak recently and lost the contents of
> their heating oil tank into the ground. The clean up operation has
> taken a two weeks so far and is costing them a small fortune not to
> mention the fine.

Sigh.

Oil COMES from the ground. The government goes to great lengths to put a
bunch of it BACK in the ground.

But let an individual do so, and it's the end of the world.



Posted by The Ranger on May 12, 2009, 9:51 am
> Cwatters wrote:
>>> I hear you just fine. The whole country is becoming a nanny state.
>> Neighbour of mine had an oil leak recently and lost the contents of
>> their heating oil tank into the ground. The clean up operation has
>> taken a two weeks so far and is costing them a small fortune not to
>> mention the fine.
> Sigh.
> Oil COMES from the ground. The government goes to great
> lengths to put a bunch of it BACK in the ground.
> But let an individual do so, and it's the end of the world.

Your ignorance is staggering. I truly hope you drink water that's been
poluted because the "nanny state" wasn't there to force that individual to
clean up the mess he created.

The Ranger



Posted by stan on May 12, 2009, 9:40 am
On May 12, 8:51=A0am, "Cwatters"
> Neighbour of mine had an oil leak recently and lost the contents of their
> heating oil tank into the ground. The clean up operation has taken a two
> weeks so far and is costing them a small fortune not to mention the fine.=
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Yes that can happen. Especially in an urban area. In more rural areas
it is amazing how far leaked oil can travel, polluting drinking wells
along the way! In one case here the large hole (many dump truck
loads) that had to be excavated to remove oil polluted soil was used
to build a basement onto which a rentable extension to the house was
built.
One failure mode (of outside tanks) has been when unprotected oil
lines have snapped off due to ice and snow, thus leaking the oil onto
the ground. Where tanks have leaked (usually due to internal rusting)
inside a house it has soaked into concrete basements floors. The smell
(and possibly health hazard?) never goes away.
Regulations for installation of oil tanks has been improved and that
along with greater use of electricity, due here to lower cost, is
reducing the hazard. Oil leakage insurance can be expensive even when
the oil tank replacement has been done in an approved/certified
manner.
There have been a few hospitalizations (in a population of 500,000
persons) due to ingesting oil. And problem is that once a well has
been polluted it may be years, if ever before, it is fit for use
again..

Posted by RBM on May 12, 2009, 7:34 pm

>>>>>>>>>>I need to transfer K1 kerosene from my delivery trailer to my
>>>>>>>>>>tank 50 ft
>>>>>>>>>> away. I have priced hoses made for fuels, and a 50 ft length
>>>>>>>>>> is $200-300.
>>>>>>>>>> Any reason why I cannot us a commercial grade, 3/4 inch hose
>>>>>>>>>> like the one
>>>>>>>>>> shown in this link ? This hose would be used **only** for
>>>>>>>>>> this purpose,
>>>>>>>>>> and would be used no more than two times a year.
>>>>>>>>>> Any comments or advice would be welcome.
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_697
>>>>>>>>>> 0_ 20 0218424_200218424
>>>>>>>>>>I'm sure it's not the proper thing to use. The fuel probably
>>>>>>>>>>deteriorates the hose material. There's probably 20 federal laws
>>>>>>>>>>prohibiting it's use, but I've been dumping about 500 gallons of
>>>>>>>>>>heating oil from an above ground tank to an underground tank each
>>>>>>>>>>year for about five years now, using a cheap garden hose and a
>>>>>>>>>>gear pump. I just make sure to keep a close eye out for problems
>>>>>>>>>>while the transfer is going on
>>>>>>>> I'm just curious: what kind of 'problems' do you keep an eye out
>>>>>>>> for that you can actually solve after you visually note them
>>>>>>>> happening?
>>>>>>>> jc
>>>>>>> City inspectors maybe.
>>>>>> If you need to look over your shoulder in fear of an inspector
>>>>>> checking the type of hose you're using, it time to move
>>>>> I meant the fact of private citizen pumping oil into the
>>>>> ground...tank or not.
>>>> Private citizen pumping privately owned oil from one privately owned
>>>> tank to another privately owned tank on private property...privately,
>>>> just to clarify
>>> Well in some Granola-head states, when it comes to anything to do with
>>> oil and the ground there is no such thing as "privately".
>> I hear you just fine. The whole country is becoming a nanny state.
> Neighbour of mine had an oil leak recently and lost the contents of their
> heating oil tank into the ground. The clean up operation has taken a two
> weeks so far and is costing them a small fortune not to mention the fine.

Why would they be "fined" for having the misfortune of a fuel tank leak?
>



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