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Hardwood Floor Help Needed Rossi 05-01-2007
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Posted by Rossi on May 2, 2007, 2:44 am
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I have a 1920s house I am remodelling and got to the floor phase.
> > Decided for hardwood. Problem is that the upper floor sagged about
> > 1/2in (in the center) over the years and I cannot push the floor back
> > up.
>
> > The hardwood planks are about 5/8in thick and 3in wide.
>
> > Right now I am considering two options.
>
> > 1) get laminated wood in several different thicknesses, cut strips and
> > screw them to the old floor trying to eliminate or, at least, reduce
> > the sagging to a minimum and then nail the hardwood planks to them.
>
> > 2) pour self-leveling compound and then glue the hardwood planks to
> > the cement, as suggested by a friend, but I am not very fond of this
> > method.
>
> > Anybody has experience with this problem and how it was solved?
>
> > Thanks in advance!
>
> Regarding option one, I'm skeptical of the practicality of that. How
> would you decide what thickness where? Wouldn't the thickness have to
> vary on at least some of the strips. I've thought before of screwing
> down a 2x2 and snapping a line at level, and then removing the strip,
> sawing it, and reapplying it. Sounds like a ton of work. I think you
> would have to fill the spaces between the shims with floor fill or
> something. Liable to get a lot of squeaks.
>
> There have been other posters on this group who have inquired about
> nailing hardwood down over self-leveling compound. Not sure how it
> turned out, but I really think that it might be the way to go.
>
> The option you don't list is leaving the floor as it is. It is a 90
> year old house after all. Part of the character of an old house is
> dips in the floors IMO.


I thought about leaving as is but it would look really terrible. I
can live with minimizing the sag but have to eliminate it at least
where the doors are. I tought about getting different laminate
thicknesses and nail/screw them over the wood strips of different
thicknesses.

That would give me a relatively flat surface to nail the hardwood
planks to. It is a lot of work indeed, ergo the questions about
laying cement leveler and gluing the hardwood planks instead of
nailing them.

How does glue work with hardwood floor meant to be nailed? What could
be the problems coming out of doing so?



Posted by Alan on May 2, 2007, 12:15 pm
Look into the possibility of using a self-leveling floor compound to
improve level on the subflooring. This would be a thin layer of
concrete, in effect, that would shim the difference you need. Nailing
through it might be a trick, but given the thickness, probably not.
Anyway, it's just an idea, and potentially an easy solution.



>
>
>
>
> > > Hello,
>
> > > I have a 1920s house I am remodelling and got to the floor phase.
> > > Decided for hardwood. Problem is that the upper floor sagged about
> > > 1/2in (in the center) over the years and I cannot push the floor back
> > > up.
>
> > > The hardwood planks are about 5/8in thick and 3in wide.
>
> > > Right now I am considering two options.
>
> > > 1) get laminated wood in several different thicknesses, cut strips and
> > > screw them to the old floor trying to eliminate or, at least, reduce
> > > the sagging to a minimum and then nail the hardwood planks to them.
>
> > > 2) pour self-leveling compound and then glue the hardwood planks to
> > > the cement, as suggested by a friend, but I am not very fond of this
> > > method.
>
> > > Anybody has experience with this problem and how it was solved?
>
> > > Thanks in advance!
>
> > Regarding option one, I'm skeptical of the practicality of that. How
> > would you decide what thickness where? Wouldn't the thickness have to
> > vary on at least some of the strips. I've thought before of screwing
> > down a 2x2 and snapping a line at level, and then removing the strip,
> > sawing it, and reapplying it. Sounds like a ton of work. I think you
> > would have to fill the spaces between the shims with floor fill or
> > something. Liable to get a lot of squeaks.
>
> > There have been other posters on this group who have inquired about
> > nailing hardwood down over self-leveling compound. Not sure how it
> > turned out, but I really think that it might be the way to go.
>
> > The option you don't list is leaving the floor as it is. It is a 90
> > year old house after all. Part of the character of an old house is
> > dips in the floors IMO.
>
> I thought about leaving as is but it would look really terrible. I
> can live with minimizing the sag but have to eliminate it at least
> where the doors are. I tought about getting different laminate
> thicknesses and nail/screw them over the wood strips of different
> thicknesses.
>
> That would give me a relatively flat surface to nail the hardwood
> planks to. It is a lot of work indeed, ergo the questions about
> laying cement leveler and gluing the hardwood planks instead of
> nailing them.
>
> How does glue work with hardwood floor meant to be nailed? What could
> be the problems coming out of doing so?



Posted by Kickstart on May 3, 2007, 7:04 pm
> I have a 1920s house I am remodelling and got to the floor phase.
> Decided for hardwood. Problem is that the upper floor sagged about
> 1/2in (in the center) over the years and I cannot push the floor back
> up.
> Thanks in advance!
>
I didn't see any mention of the ceiling below sagging 1/2", does it ?
The sister joist is the only sure and sensible fix.
No need to thank for suggestions since your not using any of them anyway

kickstart



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