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Heater in Bathroom Panasonic Whisper Warm ? Tube Audio 03-18-2009
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Posted by Tube Audio on March 18, 2009, 5:00 pm
Hello

I am about to have my bathroom remolded.

My wife would like to add a heater to the bathroom. The home has a forced
air gas furnace and the batroom has a vent in it. We rarely turn the house
heater on (live in SF bay area).

I noticed that Panasonic makes a WhisperWarm , which is a vent fan along
with a heater.

Would this be a good way to go? I need to add a vent fan as part of the
remodle.

Was wondering if there is a better way to install a heater?

How are the Red Hating Lamp Light Bulbs?

Or an Electric Wall mount heater?

Ideas?

Thanks



Posted by RicodJour on March 18, 2009, 5:48 pm
> Hello
> I am about to have my bathroom remolded.
> My wife would like to add a heater to the bathroom. =A0The home has a for=
ced
> air gas furnace and the batroom has a vent in it. =A0We rarely turn the h=
ouse
> heater on (live in SF bay area).
> I noticed that Panasonic makes a WhisperWarm , which is a vent fan along
> with a heater.
> Would this be a good way to go? =A0I need to add a vent fan as part of th=
e
> remodle.
> Was wondering if there is a better way to install a heater?
> How are the Red Hating Lamp Light Bulbs?
> Or an Electric Wall mount heater?

First things first. Do NOT have your bathroom remolded. You should
reuse the existing mold. It's cheaper that way. ;)

I like Panasonic fans, but I don't see the point in heating the air up
by the ceiling. If you want to do it right, look into installing
radiant heat under the floor tile. There are very few things in life
that are nicer than stepping barefoot onto a nice warm floor, and none
of those other things are legal.

Electric radiant is efficient for small areas, such as your bathroom,
and it frees up wall and ceiling space. The only thing you'll see is
the thermostat. If you get one of the programmable thermostats you
can set it to turn the floor heat on a little while before you get up
in the morning so you'll step onto that nice warm floor.

Warmly Yours is a good outfit to work with.
http://www.warmlyyours.com/products/floor-heating/tile-and-stone/

R

Posted by EXT on March 18, 2009, 6:30 pm
> > Hello
> > I am about to have my bathroom remolded.
> > My wife would like to add a heater to the bathroom. The home has a
> > forced air gas furnace and the batroom has a vent in it. We rarely
> > turn the house heater on (live in SF bay area).
> > I noticed that Panasonic makes a WhisperWarm , which is a vent fan
> > along with a heater.
> > Would this be a good way to go? I need to add a vent fan as part of
> > the remodle.
> > Was wondering if there is a better way to install a heater?
> > How are the Red Hating Lamp Light Bulbs?
> > Or an Electric Wall mount heater?
> First things first. Do NOT have your bathroom remolded. You should
> reuse the existing mold. It's cheaper that way. ;)
> I like Panasonic fans, but I don't see the point in heating the air up
> by the ceiling. If you want to do it right, look into installing
> radiant heat under the floor tile. There are very few things in life
> that are nicer than stepping barefoot onto a nice warm floor, and none
> of those other things are legal.
> Electric radiant is efficient for small areas, such as your bathroom,
> and it frees up wall and ceiling space. The only thing you'll see is
> the thermostat. If you get one of the programmable thermostats you
> can set it to turn the floor heat on a little while before you get up
> in the morning so you'll step onto that nice warm floor.

I agree. I am working on the second bathroom remodel using under tile
electric heaters as an addition to the house heating. They don't use much
electricity and can be controlled to only operate when you need it.


Posted by Tim on March 19, 2009, 1:45 pm
Recycling old mold (as opposed to buying new) saves money and can be a wise
investment. Be sure to install it into wet area to give it a good home.

Since I do work exclusively with the handicapped and the elderly, I know
that you NEVER install anything that moves air around or through a bathroom
(think wind chill factor). I always recommend radiant flooring systems or if
that is not possible, radiant from above. Either way, it is a little more
expensive on an operating basis than a gas FAU, but it is better for
bathroom heat. I always recommend a programmable thermostat for heated
floors since they are not instant on. Set them 20 minutes or so before you
get up (depdnding on substrate), and have a nice toasty bathroom and shower
floor ready to go.

Tim


> Hello
> I am about to have my bathroom remolded.
> My wife would like to add a heater to the bathroom. The home has a forced
> air gas furnace and the batroom has a vent in it. We rarely turn the house
> heater on (live in SF bay area).
> I noticed that Panasonic makes a WhisperWarm , which is a vent fan along
> with a heater.
> Would this be a good way to go? I need to add a vent fan as part of the
> remodle.
> Was wondering if there is a better way to install a heater?
> How are the Red Hating Lamp Light Bulbs?
> Or an Electric Wall mount heater?

First things first. Do NOT have your bathroom remolded. You should
reuse the existing mold. It's cheaper that way. ;)

I like Panasonic fans, but I don't see the point in heating the air up
by the ceiling. If you want to do it right, look into installing
radiant heat under the floor tile. There are very few things in life
that are nicer than stepping barefoot onto a nice warm floor, and none
of those other things are legal.

Electric radiant is efficient for small areas, such as your bathroom,
and it frees up wall and ceiling space. The only thing you'll see is
the thermostat. If you get one of the programmable thermostats you
can set it to turn the floor heat on a little while before you get up
in the morning so you'll step onto that nice warm floor.

Warmly Yours is a good outfit to work with.
http://www.warmlyyours.com/products/floor-heating/tile-and-stone/

R


Posted by Robert Neville on March 18, 2009, 11:03 pm

>I noticed that Panasonic makes a WhisperWarm , which is a vent fan along
>with a heater. Would this be a good way to go? I need to add a vent fan as
part of the
>remodel.

It's probably not going to do what you want - the room will be cold when you
enter and if the exhaust fan is running, the only warmth will come from direct
radiation. Since you are remodeling, you may want to consider something like
this as a solution:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=89247-14-170&lpage=none


It fits flush into the wall and operates by thermostat (builtin or separate).
There are many similar choices to choose from, depending on the size of the
room. Search for electric wall heater.

I installed one in a back corner bathroom that never seemed to get warm enough
from the central heating. Set the thermostat just high enough to take the chill
off the room, but not so high that you'd see a big electric hit.

It does draw current similar to a hair dryer, so you can't piggy back on a
lighting circuit and need to be careful about a bath circuit since it's possible
you'd have a hair dryer going the same time it was running. We had an unused 20A
GFCI jet tub circuit available, so it was really easy to install.

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