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Heating Source for Pool: Propane or Natural Gas W 05-01-2009
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Posted by fftt on May 3, 2009, 1:48 pm
> > I'm going to install a small pool and a firepit in the back yard, and I=
am
> > thinking of using a natural gas / propane heater. I can fuel this in on=
e
> > of
> > three ways, and I would appreciate hearing from others who have experie=
nce
> > with these options. My options are:
> > 1) Install a standalone propane tank and use propane to fuel both the p=
ool
> > and the fire pit.
> > 2) Install a standalone natural gas tank, and then install some kind of
> > natural gas refilling station off our natural gas heating line to the
> > home,
> > moving over natural gas tanks to the pool area as needed.
> > 3) Extend the natural gas line for the home through the backyard to the
> > pool
> > heater.
> > Option 1) seems to be hassle free, but I gather the downside will be th=
e
> > cost? How much more is propane through a propane reseller like Suburban
> > Propane going to cost me than natural gas through a typical West Coast
> > utility?
> > Option 2) has the cost of installing a natural gas resupply station and
> > the
> > hassle of manually needing to move tanks over from time to time. I do g=
et
> > lower usage costs on the gas, so I make back the fixed up front costs
> > eventually.
> > Option 3) is low cost and low hassle to use, but I have a feeling that =
the
> > cost to install a natural gas line extension is going to be large, and
> > probably the permitting process for that is a huge hassle.
> > How would costs of electrical through a utility compare against propane=
?
> > I simply want to pursue the most cost effective strategy for the
> > application.
> > --
> > W
> >>> I simply want to pursue the most cost effective strategy for the
> >>> application.<<<<
> <initial cost? =A0operating cost? =A0life cycle cost?
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I'm looking for lowest life cycle cost over a two year pe=
riod.
> <Pool size? Pool or more like a spa? =A0In ground? =A0Above ground? =A0He=
at
> <year 'round? Or just extend season? Total BTU's burned per season?
> <How long would the pipe to the heater need to be?
> =A0 =A0 Pool is 10 x 16...it is an "Endless Pool" which would be installe=
d
> partly above ground, and it would be heated year round in California.
> =A0 =A0 A natural gas pipe to the heater would run about 100 feet.
> =A0 =A0 I don't know the number of BTUs required to heat the pool per sea=
son.
> --
> W

My second post was lost, but here's the "short answer"

It sounds like you could use a mechanical engineer or knowledgeable
pool contractor to pencil out your options for your specific location
& conditons.

My "blink" is piped natural gas is your cheapest option.

cheers
Bob

Posted by Cwatters on May 3, 2009, 2:20 pm

> Pool is 10 x 16...it is an "Endless Pool" which would be installed
> partly above ground, and it would be heated year round in California.

You're in CA and want to heat the pool all year round using fossil fuels? I
guess you haven't heard of global warming? Why on earth not use solar in
the summer and a heat pump in winter?






Posted by on May 4, 2009, 12:38 pm
On May 3, 2:20=A0pm, "Cwatters"
> =A0> =A0 =A0Pool is 10 x 16...it is an "Endless Pool" which would be inst=
alled
> > partly above ground, and it would be heated year round in California.
> You're in CA and want to heat the pool all year round using fossil fuels?=
I
> guess you haven't heard of global warming? =A0Why on earth not use solar =
in
> the summer and a heat pump in winter?

I agree, a heat pump is the way to go. They are fairly common for
pools these days and in your location I would expect them to be pretty
efficient.

If you really want to go fossil fuel then you need to run the gas line
out there. Propane is way more expensive that piped in natural gas.

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