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Help with estimate? John E. 01-04-2007
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Posted by BZ on January 4, 2007, 11:12 am
Why is a business hiring an amateur to do some major plumbing work?
They're going to write it off the cost on their taxes anyway, so they
might as well pay the extra it would take to get a professional plumbing
contractor in there.

This sounds like an informal agreement between friends or family
members, and if that's the case, then I would skip the whole estimate
step and tell them that they'll have to cover costs plus a daily wage,
but you can't give them a definite number of days up front. Just make
sure you know you can deliver professional results even if it takes a
little longer, because this is the kind of thing that can cause a
serious rift in a relationship.

Posted by SteveF on January 4, 2007, 5:44 pm

> I've been asked to add a shower to a half bath in a business. The toilet,
> sink, and shower will share the same wall, the "wet wall". The shower will
> be
> a one-piece shell, placed in one corner of the bathroom, which requires
> moving the sink closer to the toilet (and all the plumbing relocation that
> entails) and building a stud wall to enclose the shower stall and a 2x6
> frame
> pedestal to set it on so as to allow plumbing above the slab floor (the
> drain
> is in the wall directly behind the shower location -- lucky me!). Then
> sheet
> rock the stud wall and trim the shower and new wall with FRP.
>
> How long would you expect this to take? My guess is about 10 days, as I'm
> not
> a professional.
>
> But as to charging (just labor -- they will supply a CC for supplies), I
> can't charge for all the time it would take me; that wouldn't be fair. How
> long would you expect this to take a pro?
>
> If you'd like to just throw out an ball-park $ estimate and/or give an
> time
> estimate and what the going hourly rate is in your area, or any of the
> above,
> it would help me rough up a figure.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> --
> John English
>

Go buy "National Remodeling and Repair Costs" (saw one in Borders) or the
one from RS Means (saw those in Home Depot). Look up each item and it gives
the material and labor costs. Adjust for your locality. Add it up. Done.

Steve.



Posted by Kickstart on January 4, 2007, 6:18 pm
> Go buy "National Remodeling and Repair Costs" (saw one in Borders) or the
> one from RS Means (saw those in Home Depot). Look up each item and it
> gives the material and labor costs. Adjust for your locality. Add it up.
> Done.
>
> Steve.
>
>
The guys and idiot.
He cant do the work and he cant do the estimate.
The Means book does not factor in 42 trips to Home Depot for materials.
That's why he guesses it will take 10 days for a 2 day job.

kickstart



Posted by SteveF on January 4, 2007, 8:52 pm

>> Go buy "National Remodeling and Repair Costs" (saw one in Borders) or the
>> one from RS Means (saw those in Home Depot). Look up each item and it
>> gives the material and labor costs. Adjust for your locality. Add it up.
>> Done.
>>
>> Steve.
>>
>>
> The guys and idiot.
> He cant do the work and he cant do the estimate.
> The Means book does not factor in 42 trips to Home Depot for materials.
> That's why he guesses it will take 10 days for a 2 day job.
>
> kickstart
>

Certainly possible but I try not to assess the competence of someone over
the Internet.

If he screws it up, it's his fault and he will have to fix it.

Steve.



Posted by HeyBub on January 4, 2007, 10:28 pm
Kickstart wrote:
>> Go buy "National Remodeling and Repair Costs" (saw one in Borders)
>> or the one from RS Means (saw those in Home Depot). Look up each
>> item and it gives the material and labor costs. Adjust for your
>> locality. Add it up. Done.
>>
>> Steve.
>>
>>
> The guys and idiot.
> He cant do the work and he cant do the estimate.
> The Means book does not factor in 42 trips to Home Depot for
> materials. That's why he guesses it will take 10 days for a 2 day job.

Hey, if the mark's willing to pay for ten day's labor...



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