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Home constructions questions eric.fuehrer 07-24-2007
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Posted by on July 24, 2007, 8:44 am
Hello,
I am having a house built in South Carolina by a large home
builder and have seen some issues with a couple of things and have
been told several reasons by the builder but haven't gotten a straight
answer. I would like some help here.

First - there are studs that have a saw cut halfway through them
on a downward 45 degree angle, there were nails put in upward just
below the cut and a 2 foot board nailed along side of the stud. I have
been told that those were the board that were being replace. I was
also told that they do that to remove any bending or twisting in the
studs, this seemed more logical but for the fact that I see several
studs that had obvious bends or twists that this was not done to. Also
on one wall where the studs looked to be in pretty good shape, they
did it to every stud in the wall. Can anyone give me a reason for
doing this and is it a standard building practice.

Second - When they built the 10x10 deck on the back of the house
they nailed a 2" x 2" on to the bottom edge of the ledger board and
the deck joists sit on that board and were toenailed to the ledger. I
thought everyone used joist hangers when building decks. My wife was
told that this method made the deck stronger then when hangers were
used. I said then why did they use hangers when the put our floor
joist in the house? I am not familiar with SC building codes but
question this practice and would like the correct answer.


Posted by Dave on July 24, 2007, 10:22 am
Reply inline below:

> Hello,
> I am having a house built in South Carolina by a large home
> builder and have seen some issues with a couple of things and have
> been told several reasons by the builder but haven't gotten a straight
> answer. I would like some help here.
>
> First - there are studs that have a saw cut halfway through them
> on a downward 45 degree angle, there were nails put in upward just
> below the cut and a 2 foot board nailed along side of the stud. I have
> been told that those were the board that were being replace. I was
> also told that they do that to remove any bending or twisting in the
> studs, this seemed more logical but for the fact that I see several
> studs that had obvious bends or twists that this was not done to. Also
> on one wall where the studs looked to be in pretty good shape, they
> did it to every stud in the wall. Can anyone give me a reason for
> doing this and is it a standard building practice.

Seen this done with studs with excessive crowns/bowing. Does nothing for
twisting. If studs have excessive bowing, and/or twisting, they should have
be replaced with suitable studs at time of original framing of the wall.
Its a patchwork fix for someone in a hurry.

Usually, if such is done on a given wall, its because it has a long run
where bowing would be obvious. Closets and other small spaces, not so
obvious, may be left alone. Again, someone in a hurry. Can't do it right
the first time.

Normally, the framers eyeball the studs, and throw the unsuitables in a pile
to exchange for suitables from the lumber supplier. Again, someone in a
hurry.

>
> Second - When they built the 10x10 deck on the back of the house
> they nailed a 2" x 2" on to the bottom edge of the ledger board and
> the deck joists sit on that board and were toenailed to the ledger. I
> thought everyone used joist hangers when building decks. My wife was
> told that this method made the deck stronger then when hangers were
> used. I said then why did they use hangers when the put our floor
> joist in the house? I am not familiar with SC building codes but
> question this practice and would like the correct answer.
>

Standard practice before joist hangers came along. The joist should have a
cutout for the 2X2 on its bottom. The top of the joists should be even
across. The bottom may have some unevenness due to dimensional lumber not
always perfect in size from board to board. If the framer did not account
for this, the top of the joists may be slightly uneven. Forgivable as joist
hangers do the same thing. Have seen a form of bridging at the ledger board
between the joists in some cases.

Unaware of any building code for S.C.
Last I looked in TX, its specified IRC 2001 minimum, with the local
municipalities (10,000 or more population) making their own building code
based on that.
Dave



Posted by Dennis on July 24, 2007, 6:24 pm
South Carolina uses the 2003 IRC, with 2005 NEC.

> Unaware of any building code for S.C.



Posted by Dave on July 25, 2007, 12:04 am
> South Carolina uses the 2003 IRC, with 2005 NEC.
>
>> Unaware of any building code for S.C.
>
>

And the locale where the original poster uses what specific building code
other than specifically IRC 2003? If you don't know what I mean, see
previously what I said about Texas municipalities.
Dave



Posted by Dennis on July 27, 2007, 7:01 pm
Sorry Dave, I don't understand your point. He said he was having a home
built in South Carolina. South Caroilna uses the 2003 IRC statewide with
very few amendments. I can't see what requirements Texas has, that could
possibly impact home construction in South Carolina.
(I'm licensed in Texas and do work in both states.)

> And the locale where the original poster uses what specific building code
> other than specifically IRC 2003? If you don't know what I mean, see
> previously what I said about Texas municipalities.



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