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Hot water tank return Bill 10-28-2006
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Posted by Bill on October 28, 2006, 8:36 pm
I heard that you can install a line from the tank where the drain spigot is.
That you remove the spigot, and run a line to the farthest hot water riser.
It is supposed to allow the hot water to circulate naturally.

Anyone heard of this.

Not using an electric pump would be worth the savings to me.


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Posted by Glenn on October 29, 2006, 11:00 am
Sure, I have mine that way. Have had for years. Water will go
the way of least resistance though so you put a loop in the return
line, I have found 17' works well. I have also installed in many
houses. The 17' return makes the water travel an entra 34' on
that leg and when the water is being drawn at the far end it will
pull mostly from the supply side because of the extra resistance
the loop imposes.

Cold water falls so it will rise on the supply side and fall into
the bottom of the heater. No pump, gravity does it.


> I heard that you can install a line from the tank where
> the drain spigot is. That you remove the spigot, and run
> a line to the farthest hot water riser. It is supposed to
> allow the hot water to circulate naturally.
> Anyone heard of this.
>
> Not using an electric pump would be worth the savings to
> me.
>
> --
> please reply to bargerw NO @ SPAM bellsouth.net and
> remove the NOSPAM


Posted by Bobk207 on October 29, 2006, 11:00 am

Bill wrote:
> I heard that you can install a line from the tank where the drain spigot is.
> That you remove the spigot, and run a line to the farthest hot water riser.
> It is supposed to allow the hot water to circulate naturally.
>
> Anyone heard of this.
>
> Not using an electric pump would be worth the savings to me.
>
>
> --
> please reply to bargerw NO @ SPAM bellsouth.net and remove the NOSPAM

Bill-

Yes, hte concept can work but I've never used it or seen an
installation

The concept is a thermo-siphon

checkout

http://www.chilipepperapp.com/tscs.htm

cheers
Bob


Posted by Glenn on October 29, 2006, 12:29 pm
Your link is correct to a point. It uses a check valve. I have
found they don't work that well. The return pressure isn't enough
to push them open all the time. I have even installed them on a
short line going down hill on a 45 degree so they hang looser
which works better but any lime or corrosion will hang them up. I
have found the loop works well.

> Bill wrote:
> > I heard that you can install a line from the tank where
> > the drain spigot is. That you remove the spigot, and
> > run a line to the farthest hot water riser. It is
> > supposed to allow the hot water to circulate naturally.
> >
> > Anyone heard of this.
> >
> > Not using an electric pump would be worth the savings
> > to me.
> >
> >
> > --
> > please reply to bargerw NO @ SPAM bellsouth.net and
> > remove the NOSPAM
>
> Bill-
>
> Yes, hte concept can work but I've never used it or seen
> an installation
>
> The concept is a thermo-siphon
>
> checkout
>
> http://www.chilipepperapp.com/tscs.htm
>
> cheers
> Bob


Posted by Glenn on October 29, 2006, 12:41 pm
I might clarify one other thing. For ease of illustration of the
system the illisustration shows the return line returning across
the floor. Not necessary, just attach it to the ceiling back to
the heater. I do try to get a couple inches of fall in the return
line though and of course there is the fall from the ceiling down
to the heater at that end.

> Your link is correct to a point. It uses a check valve. I have
> found they don't work that well. The return
> pressure isn't enough to push them open all the time. I
> have even installed them on a short line going down hill
> on a 45 degree so they hang looser which works better but
> any lime or corrosion will hang them up. I have found
> the loop works well.
> > Bill wrote:
> > > I heard that you can install a line from the tank
> > > where the drain spigot is. That you remove the
> > > spigot, and run a line to the farthest hot water
> > > riser. It is supposed to allow the hot water to
> > > circulate naturally. Anyone heard of this.
> > >
> > > Not using an electric pump would be worth the savings
> > > to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > please reply to bargerw NO @ SPAM bellsouth.net and
> > > remove the NOSPAM
> >
> > Bill-
> >
> > Yes, hte concept can work but I've never used it or seen
> > an installation
> >
> > The concept is a thermo-siphon
> >
> > checkout
> >
> > http://www.chilipepperapp.com/tscs.htm
> >
> > cheers
> > Bob


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