If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
|
Posted by George Conklin on March 30, 2008, 5:26 pm
show/hide quoted text
> wrote:
> >> Does anyone think about how much land gets covered by blessed housing
> >> starts each year?
> >Total acreage of the U.S. = 1876 million acres
>http://www.statemaster.com/graph/geo_lan_acr_tot-geography-land-acreage-tot
> >Assuming 100 million households, and assuming the average "house" covers
0.1
show/hide quoted text
> >acres (should be much less than that due to apartment buildings, condos)
> >then houses cover 10 million acres.
> >Percent of land covered by houses: 10/1876 = 0.5%
> >If this doubles over next century, then 1% of land will be covered.
(Note:
show/hide quoted text
> >much of this will be due to Mexican immigration, so lots of crummy
'houses'
show/hide quoted text
> >in Mexico will become abandoned and will revert to nature)
> >Dan in Philly
> Overall context:
> The entire population of the world, 6.6 billion, could be given
> single-family homes (figuring 5 persons per family, low for the world)
> on quarter-acre lots, with yards to play catch with the kids and all,
> and easily fit into four or five decent-sized U.S. states.
> Say ... Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and Arkansas.
> Though they might prefer California, Oregon, Washington, Nevada and
> Arizona. Nicer weather, with more choice about it.
> That's about 15% of the land area of the US.
> Then say you create multi-family housing, so one-third of housing area
> is single-family homes, one third is two-family homes, and one-third
> averages nine families up in apartment buildings, per quarter acre.
> Now you've emptied 75% of even that space, and 6.6 billion people live
> in about 3.5% of the land area of the US, with the other 11.5%
> becoming room for ball parks, offices and shopping center parking
> lots.
> The great bulk of the world's land area is empty. The great weight of
> humanity physically bears down upon the globe like dust upon a
> basketball.
> As far as just the US is concerned, if it had the same population
> density as that infamous hell-hole Bermuda, all its people would fit
> into an area somewaht smaller than California and Wyoming combined.
Given quadraplexes, the Sierra Club ideal, everyone in the world would
fit into Texas, leaving the rest of the world to snakes and flies.
|
|
Posted by Matt W. Barrow on March 30, 2008, 5:32 pm
show/hide quoted text
>> As far as just the US is concerned, if it had the same population
>> density as that infamous hell-hole Bermuda, all its people would fit
>> into an area somewaht smaller than California and Wyoming combined.
> Given quadraplexes, the Sierra Club ideal, everyone in the world would
> fit into Texas, leaving the rest of the world to snakes and flies.
..and to the Sierra Club.
Now THAT's an unbeatable real estate deal!!
|
|
Posted by George Conklin on March 30, 2008, 7:39 pm
show/hide quoted text
> >> As far as just the US is concerned, if it had the same population
> >> density as that infamous hell-hole Bermuda, all its people would fit
> >> into an area somewaht smaller than California and Wyoming combined.
> > Given quadraplexes, the Sierra Club ideal, everyone in the world would
> > fit into Texas, leaving the rest of the world to snakes and flies.
> ..and to the Sierra Club.
> Now THAT's an unbeatable real estate deal!!
Nah...for snakes.
|
|
Posted by zzbunker on March 31, 2008, 1:15 pm
show/hide quoted text
> Does anyone think about how much land gets covered by blessed housing
> starts each year?
Yes, of course, many people do often.
Since as fate would have it, that's the limit of what the moron
politiciians in the US even know about economics, buisness,
science, engineering, or any subject really.
So, that's obviously where the robots, digital, computers,
fiber optics, laser disks, satellittes, artifical intelligence,
tasers,
D.U., D,N.A., and cruise missiles came from for the "stsrt-me-up"
imbeciles.
This includes interstitial land in urbanized areas,
show/hide quoted text
> gross urban expansion i.e. sprawl, agricultural land like California's
> increasingly-paved Central Valley, and pristine land on the edges of
> designated wilderness.
> The standard definition of housing starts makes no mention of land
> losses and the attendant increase in water & energy consumption, plus
> mandatory road-building. Like most economic creeds, housing starts are
> still defined mainly in terms of money and jobs. The land itself is
> treated as an infinite sink for this "progress" to occur in.
> Fromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_starts:
> "Housing Starts are used in the United States of America as an
> indicator of the state of the economy. Housing Starts are the number
> of privately owned new homes (technically housing units) on which
> construction has been started over some period. Housing starts are an
> important economic indicator because they show how much money the
> general public has. If there is a rise in housing starts it likely
> means there is more money in the economy. Additionally if there are
> more Housing Starts in a time period the Federal Funds Rate is
> presumably low enough for individuals to be willing to borrow money
> from banks."
> With annual U.S. population growth at 3 million, housing starts must
> be consuming thousands of acres each year. Does anyone in the building
> industry see an end to this malignancy? Does anyone see that
> population growth is the chicken & egg precursor to job-creation?
> With U.S. population projections of 400 to 500 million by mid-century,
> millions of acres of "empty" space will be written off as expendable.
> Nature will keep getting buried for the sake of construction jobs and
> real estate profits. There will be the usual talk of energy efficient
> homes, but they will never reverse the net impact of overpopulation.
> http://www.wcs.org/humanfootprint(housing starts are stomping all
> over the place)
> E.A.
> http://enough_already.tripod.com/terrasrvr.htm
> Economic growth: the endless replacement of nature with people.
|
Page 11 of 11 << first < 1 2 3
| Similar Threads | Posted | | Housing starts and "natural population growth" (aka land depletion) | March 9, 2009, 10:22 pm |
| October housing starts fall by half; San Diego, Riverside counties drive statewide construction slump | November 30, 2006, 1:26 am |
| New Land Listing Site | March 24, 2008, 7:28 pm |
| Grading Land to Drain Water Away from Basement | August 13, 2006, 8:20 am |
| Quality Homes for families, investment for rental. House and Land Packages | October 23, 2008, 6:36 am |
| 5 star Hotel,office Tower,luxurious house Development Land For sale in Istanbul Turkey | October 19, 2007, 9:00 am |
| The REAL housing crisis: TOO MANY PEOPLE | August 16, 2007, 11:30 pm |
| The real housing crisis is one of quantity | April 19, 2008, 3:29 pm |
| moladi - Low Construction Cost Housing Solution | July 9, 2007, 2:12 am |
| moladi launched in Ghana - moladiGHANA - Low cost housing | October 21, 2009, 3:41 am |
|
|
Yahoo! 
Google 
Windows Live 
del.icio.us 
digg 
Netscape 
XML Sitemap
> >> Does anyone think about how much land gets covered by blessed housing
> >> starts each year?
> >Total acreage of the U.S. = 1876 million acres
>http://www.statemaster.com/graph/geo_lan_acr_tot-geography-land-acreage-tot
> >Assuming 100 million households, and assuming the average "house" covers