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How to stiffen interior wall with subwoofers sargon19552003 10-11-2007
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Posted by on October 11, 2007, 7:00 pm
I want to stiffen an interior wall in which I plan to install
subwoofers for a home theater. I would like advice on the best way to
do it.


Posted by RicodJour on October 11, 2007, 7:21 pm
On Oct 11, 7:00 pm, sargon19552...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I want to stiffen an interior wall in which I plan to install
> subwoofers for a home theater. I would like advice on the best way to
> do it.

Stiffen? For what purpose? Stiffness would almost assuredly require
additional wall depth to have any real difference. Is that something
you're willing to live with? I'd just go with something like this:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_14_3/velodyne-sc-iw-subwoofer-8-2007-part-1.html

R


Posted by Bobk207 on October 11, 2007, 10:07 pm
On Oct 11, 4:00 pm, sargon19552...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I want to stiffen an interior wall in which I plan to install
> subwoofers for a home theater. I would like advice on the best way to
> do it.

As Rico mention, adding significant out of plane stiffness to a
timber framed wall means adding depth (thickness) to the wall.

Without increasing wall depth (thickenss) you could opne up one side
& sister heavy steel channels to the 3.5" dimension of the studs. An
expensive & labor intensive effort

Alternatively you could open up the wall on both sides and sheath
both sides with plywood; glue & staple, creating a very stiff plate
structure.


when you say stiffen...how much do you desire to increase the
stifness? +50%? 2x? 5x?

cheers
Bob



Posted by on October 11, 2007, 11:10 pm
> On Oct 11, 4:00 pm, sargon19552...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I want to stiffen an interior wall in which I plan to install
> > subwoofers for a home theater. I would like advice on the best way to
> > do it.
>
> As Rico mention, adding significant out of plane stiffness to a
> timber framed wall means adding depth (thickness) to the wall.
>
> Without increasing wall depth (thickenss) you could opne up one side
> & sister heavy steel channels to the 3.5" dimension of the studs. An
> expensive & labor intensive effort
>
> Alternatively you could open up the wall on both sides and sheath
> both sides with plywood; glue & staple, creating a very stiff plate
> structure.
>
> when you say stiffen...how much do you desire to increase the
> stifness? +50%? 2x? 5x?
>
> cheers
> Bob

Hi Bob,

I should have stated that the wall in question is still under
construction (no drywall up yet), so I can modify as I wish. It's 3
feet in front of an exterior wall. The idea is to effectively make an
enormous speaker enclosure (infinite baffle). I want to stiffen the
wall so that the force of the subwoofers (a pair of panels with 4 15"
woofers each) doesn't make the wall move. I'm not sure how much
stiffer it needs to be. Could I add, say, unistrut to the studs
( think that's what jloomis was talking about)? Or how about putting
pairs of scissors trusses between the wall and the exterior wall where
the subwoofer panels are? The exterior wall is stucco on the outside,
and half of it has shear wall panels.


Posted by RicodJour on October 12, 2007, 12:09 am
On Oct 11, 11:10 pm, sargon19552...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 11, 4:00 pm, sargon19552...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > I want to stiffen an interior wall in which I plan to install
> > > subwoofers for a home theater. I would like advice on the best way to
> > > do it.
>
> > As Rico mention, adding significant out of plane stiffness to a
> > timber framed wall means adding depth (thickness) to the wall.
>
> > Without increasing wall depth (thickenss) you could opne up one side
> > & sister heavy steel channels to the 3.5" dimension of the studs. An
> > expensive & labor intensive effort
>
> > Alternatively you could open up the wall on both sides and sheath
> > both sides with plywood; glue & staple, creating a very stiff plate
> > structure.
>
> > when you say stiffen...how much do you desire to increase the
> > stifness? +50%? 2x? 5x?
>
> > cheers
> > Bob
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> I should have stated that the wall in question is still under
> construction (no drywall up yet), so I can modify as I wish. It's 3
> feet in front of an exterior wall. The idea is to effectively make an
> enormous speaker enclosure (infinite baffle). I want to stiffen the
> wall so that the force of the subwoofers (a pair of panels with 4 15"
> woofers each) doesn't make the wall move. I'm not sure how much
> stiffer it needs to be. Could I add, say, unistrut to the studs
> ( think that's what jloomis was talking about)? Or how about putting
> pairs of scissors trusses between the wall and the exterior wall where
> the subwoofer panels are? The exterior wall is stucco on the outside,
> and half of it has shear wall panels.

Easiest way to stiffen it would to put a couple intermediate braces
from each stud to the outside wall at the third points vertically.
Effectively you're shortening the unsupported stud length.
Unsupported in this instance means laterally. That would give you the
biggest improvement in stiffness. Since it's an enclosure, - a crawl/
access space - those braces shouldn't really interfere with anything.

Alternatively you could go with much deeper studs, say 2x8s, and use
horizontal blocking at the third points vertically.

The first option would be stiffer and cheaper. I'd also consider
sheathing the stud wall in 3/4" plywood.

R


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