I have a problems with my Water WELL

Posted by Jack Valance on July 26, 2009, 11:30 pm

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I have a in ground Well. I have a 4" submersible pump Does this pump =
have a filter on it anywhere?
. From the Well to the house first there is a stand up hydrant. The kind =
you pull up the lever what shoots out.
Then it travels to a off on switch about 3' down in the ground. Then =
into my house which is 3,000 sq ft

Inside the house I have very little pressure water trickles out of the =
shower upstairs.=20
Last week I had to replace a switch that got struck by lighting.. I =
replaced the switch that is down in the Well pipe. Water came back on =
fine with the same pressure. A week later it is doing this.. Sometimes =
the Pressure is OK. mainly at night my pressure is nothing.

I go to the hydrant and cut on and water comes out STRONG as it does?? =
What could this be
Jack in Tennessee
rave@usit.net
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>I have a in ground Well. I have a =

4" =20
submersible pump Does this pump have a filter on it =

anywhere?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>. From the Well to the house first =

there is a stand=20

up hydrant. The kind you pull up the lever what shoots out.<BR>Then it =

travels=20
to a off on switch about 3' down in the ground.  Then into my house =
which=20

is 3,000 sq ft</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Inside the house I have very little =

pressure water=20

trickles out of the shower upstairs. <BR>Last week I had to replace a =

switch=20
that got struck by lighting.. I replaced the switch that is down in the =
Well=20
pipe. Water came back on fine with the same pressure. A week later it is =
doing=20
this.. Sometimes the Pressure is OK. mainly at night  my pressure =
is=20

nothing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D4>I go to the hydrant and cut on =

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Posted by jloomis on July 27, 2009, 10:47 am

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Hi Jack,
I also have a submersible pump. In the pump house there is a "Pump =
Tech" controller. So, you should have a pump in a well, with wires =
going down to fire it up.
Also, there should be a foot valve that keeps the water in the line when =
the pump is off. In the pump house you either have a breaker box for =
electricity and or the pump tech that stops the pump when the water gets =
low. Then many have a pressure tank with an air bladder that provide =
water pressure to the house and signals the pump to go on and off at a =
set pressure. =20
I do not follow your set up with a hydrant and a switch and then to the =
house. It sounds like your house is running directly off of pump =
pressure?

I would investigate the pump first and maybe a broken foot valve?
Sometimes a piece of plumbing can get lodged in the pipe and reduce =
pressure.
The other thing I would check is the pressure tank. Sometimes these =
lose air pressure or get water logged. that will cause a disruption of =
water pressure.
Another thing that can happen is "low water" in the well. This will =
cause a direct loss of water pressure and the pump will cavitate.

That is why I have the "Pump Tech" that turns the pump off with low =
water or the windings in the pump motor all of a sudden have no =
resistance.

A water storage tank is a good way to go that fills up with water so =
that in that you pump water from the tank to the house and not from the =
well to the house.

This way, the pump acts alone, and fills the tank on its own. Turns off =
if low water and turns on after water is up. You alsways have a reserve =
in the tank.

I am not a "master pump person" but explained it in my layman way.
I am sure others will have their input.
john
I have a in ground Well. I have a 4" submersible pump Does this pump =
have a filter on it anywhere?
. From the Well to the house first there is a stand up hydrant. The =
kind you pull up the lever what shoots out.
Then it travels to a off on switch about 3' down in the ground. Then =
into my house which is 3,000 sq ft

Inside the house I have very little pressure water trickles out of the =
shower upstairs.=20
Last week I had to replace a switch that got struck by lighting.. I =
replaced the switch that is down in the Well pipe. Water came back on =
fine with the same pressure. A week later it is doing this.. Sometimes =
the Pressure is OK. mainly at night my pressure is nothing.

I go to the hydrant and cut on and water comes out STRONG as it does?? =
What could this be
Jack in Tennessee
rave@usit.net
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I also have a submersible pump.  =

In the pump=20
house there is a "Pump Tech" controller.  So, you should have a =
pump in a=20

well, with wires going down to fire it up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Also, there should be a foot valve that =

keeps the=20
water in the line when the pump is off.  In the pump house you =
either have=20
a breaker box for electricity and or the pump tech that stops the pump =
when the=20
water gets low.  Then many have a pressure tank with an air bladder =
that=20
provide water pressure to the house and signals the pump to go on and =
off at a=20

set pressure.  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I do not follow your set up with a =

hydrant and a=20
switch and then to the house.  It sounds like your house is running =

directly off of pump pressure?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I would investigate the pump first and =

maybe a=20

broken foot valve?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Sometimes a piece of plumbing can get =

lodged in the=20

pipe and reduce pressure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The other thing I would check is the =

pressure=20
tank.  Sometimes these lose air pressure or get water logged.  =
that=20

will cause a disruption of water pressure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Another thing that can happen is "low =

water" in the=20
well.  This will cause a direct loss of water pressure and the pump =
will=20

cavitate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>That is why I have the "Pump Tech" that =

turns the=20
pump off with low water or the windings in the pump motor all of a =
sudden have=20

no resistance.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>A water storage tank is a good way to =

go that fills=20
up with water so that in that you pump water from the tank to the house =
and not=20

from the well to the house.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This way, the pump acts alone, and =

fills the tank=20
on its own.  Turns off if low water and turns on after water is =
up. =20

You alsways have a reserve in the tank.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I am not a "master pump person" but =

explained it in=20

my layman way.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I am sure others will have their=20
input.</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV>"Jack Valance" <<A =

wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>I have a in ground Well. I have a =

4" =20
submersible pump Does this pump have a filter on it =

anywhere?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>. From the Well to the house first =

there is a=20
stand up hydrant. The kind you pull up the lever what shoots =

out.<BR>Then it=20

travels to a off on switch about 3' down in the ground.  Then =
into my=20

house which is 3,000 sq ft</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4 face=3DArial>Inside the house I have very little =

pressure=20

water trickles out of the shower upstairs. <BR>Last week I had to =

replace a=20
switch that got struck by lighting.. I replaced the switch that is =
down in the=20
Well pipe. Water came back on fine with the same pressure. A week =
later it is=20
doing this.. Sometimes the Pressure is OK. mainly at night  my =
pressure=20

is nothing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D4>I go to the hydrant and cut on =

and water=20

comes out STRONG as it does?? What could this be<BR>Jack in=20

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Posted by Grasshopper on July 27, 2009, 11:06 am

I have a in ground Well. I have a 4" submersible pump Does this pump have a
filter on it anywhere?
---------------------------------------------
Probably not, but I can't see it from here.
---------------------------------------------
. From the Well to the house first there is a stand up hydrant. The kind you
pull up the lever what shoots out.
----------------------------------------------
There is no accumulator and solenoid accumulator switch?
----------------------------------------------
Then it travels to a off on switch about 3' down in the ground. Then into
my house which is 3,000 sq ft
-----------------------------------------------
Are you trying to say a "gate valve"?
-----------------------------------------------
Inside the house I have very little pressure water trickles out of the
shower upstairs.
Last week I had to replace a switch that got struck by lighting.. I replaced
the switch that is down in the Well pipe. Water came back on fine with the
same pressure. A week later it is doing this.. Sometimes the Pressure is OK.
mainly at night my pressure is nothing.
--------------------------------------------
Do you have a timer activated flushing system?
--------------------------------------------
I go to the hydrant and cut on and water comes out STRONG as it does?? What
could this be
Jack in Tennessee
rave@usit.net

Posted by Jack Valance on July 27, 2009, 4:39 pm

There is a in ground pressure tank besides the 4 "pipe that goes from the
pump up the pipe to the 40 gal tank to the house.
I dug down 3' to the tank yesterday. Turns out there is a pressure gauge. I
was told to check the pressure in the tank. I did it was 5lbs.
It is suppose to be 40.. I aired it up to 40 all my water was strong.. About
a hour later I was at no pressure.
Man told me the bladder in the tank must be bad? I need to change the TANK.
It would cost me $500 for him to come do it.. At lowes the tank is about
$200..

"Grasshopper" <NONE> wrote in message
> I have a in ground Well. I have a 4" submersible pump Does this pump have
> a filter on it anywhere?
> ---------------------------------------------
> Probably not, but I can't see it from here.
> ---------------------------------------------
> . From the Well to the house first there is a stand up hydrant. The kind
> you pull up the lever what shoots out.
> ----------------------------------------------
> There is no accumulator and solenoid accumulator switch?
> ----------------------------------------------
> Then it travels to a off on switch about 3' down in the ground. Then into
> my house which is 3,000 sq ft
> -----------------------------------------------
> Are you trying to say a "gate valve"?
> -----------------------------------------------
> Inside the house I have very little pressure water trickles out of the
> shower upstairs.
> Last week I had to replace a switch that got struck by lighting.. I
> replaced the switch that is down in the Well pipe. Water came back on fine
> with the same pressure. A week later it is doing this.. Sometimes the
> Pressure is OK. mainly at night my pressure is nothing.
> --------------------------------------------
> Do you have a timer activated flushing system?
> --------------------------------------------
> I go to the hydrant and cut on and water comes out STRONG as it does??
> What could this be
> Jack in Tennessee
> rave@usit.net
>

Posted by Grasshopper on July 28, 2009, 10:57 am

What you're describing is an accumulator. I'm used to bladder type
accumulators above ground, usually inside the well house. These have a
rubber bladder that expand as the pump fills it with water. The solenoid
switch turns off the pump once a certain pressure is attained. The pressure
gauge is usually mounted in vicinity of the solenoid switch, but may be on
the accumlator end as well.

Between the solenoid switch and the accumulator, the line should tee off
toward the house. This is the supply line that feeds your plumbing in the
house and so forth. There should be a gate valve nearby the tee to cut the
water supply off to the house. Hopefully, you have a separate breaker to
disable power to the pump and solenoid switch.
--
Dave

> There is a in ground pressure tank besides the 4 "pipe that goes from the
> pump up the pipe to the 40 gal tank to the house.
> I dug down 3' to the tank yesterday. Turns out there is a pressure gauge.
> I was told to check the pressure in the tank. I did it was 5lbs.
> It is suppose to be 40.. I aired it up to 40 all my water was strong..
> About a hour later I was at no pressure.
> Man told me the bladder in the tank must be bad? I need to change the
> TANK.
> It would cost me $500 for him to come do it.. At lowes the tank is about
> $200..
> "Grasshopper" <NONE> wrote in message

>> I have a in ground Well. I have a 4" submersible pump Does this pump
>> have a filter on it anywhere?
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> Probably not, but I can't see it from here.
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> . From the Well to the house first there is a stand up hydrant. The kind
>> you pull up the lever what shoots out.
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> There is no accumulator and solenoid accumulator switch?
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Then it travels to a off on switch about 3' down in the ground. Then
>> into my house which is 3,000 sq ft
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Are you trying to say a "gate valve"?
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Inside the house I have very little pressure water trickles out of the
>> shower upstairs.
>> Last week I had to replace a switch that got struck by lighting.. I
>> replaced the switch that is down in the Well pipe. Water came back on
>> fine with the same pressure. A week later it is doing this.. Sometimes
>> the Pressure is OK. mainly at night my pressure is nothing.
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Do you have a timer activated flushing system?
>> --------------------------------------------
>> I go to the hydrant and cut on and water comes out STRONG as it does??
>> What could this be
>> Jack in Tennessee
>> rave@usit.net

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