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Insulation and venting Raider Bill 10-24-2008
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Posted by Dioclese on October 27, 2008, 10:56 am
In central Texas, where I live, tend to agree on that, especially the attic
area. You don't want the attic sealed up as it won't vent the heat, very
important especially in the summer. Found the ridge vent system with an
adequate number of soffit vents works better than the typical gable vents.
Even when using fan aids in the attic with gable vents.

I am confused about the metal roof question though. I thought the
insulation for that type of roof was placed between the rafters and the
material the metal roof is attached to. Something like Thinsulate for
instance.

--
Dave

If it looks like fish, smells like fish, its not
a cantaloupe.
> Dont know where the house is, but here in Texas, South East Texas, I dont
> go hog wild with the foam, house and the attic needs to breath, if you
> seal one up that tight, think of a fresh air return added to your HVAC
> system, to positive presure the house, and get some fresh outside air in
> there, cause we dont live in our refridgetors, we keep food in them. but
> to seal up so tight is not the best way to go, when I say not best way, I
> am talking healthy way as well.
>> I'm to the point that I have to insulate on top and close the gables.
>> I'm getting conflicting sides on where to insulate [ on top of ceiling
>> or under roof deck]
>> Wheather or not to vent the attic.
>> There will be no duct work up there. It will be closed off.
>> This is a ICF house.
>> I was thinking of having spray foam applied to the top of the ceiling
>> sheet rock thus sealing the living space completely like a igloo
>> cooler.
>> HAve been reading about not venting the attic area but am concerned
>> with condensation. Metal roof installed.
>> I have not covered the gables yet so gable vents will not be a
>> problem.
>> So the questions are
>> 1] where do I insulate?
>> 2] vent or no vent
>> I hope to get back up the middle of this month. Will take me about
>> 5-10 days work then I can get living in this baby!
>



Posted by Cwatters on November 1, 2008, 6:34 pm

> I'm to the point that I have to insulate on top and close the gables.
> I'm getting conflicting sides on where to insulate [ on top of ceiling
> or under roof deck]
> Wheather or not to vent the attic.

The issue is "interstitial condensation". Washing, bathing and simply
breathing creates water vapour in the house. It's important that this does
not find it's way through the structure and condense out on cold wooden roof
members encouraging rot. In the UK the normal proceedure is to install a
vapour barrier (a plastic sheet) on the warm side of the insulation AND
ventilate the cold side of the insulation. If you put the insulation at
ceiling level then the whole attic is cold and ventilated. If you put the
insuation between the roof timbers then you must leave a 50mm/2" ventilated
gap between the insulation and the underside of the roof membrane/tiles. The
alternative is to use a vapour permeable membrane under the roof tiles to
allow vapour to escape.

An alternative to a ventilated roof is to build whats called a "warm roof"
(at least in the UK it's called that). This puts all the insulation totaly
above the wooden parts of the roof structure rather than between them. This
means there is no cold wood for the vapour to condense onto.









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