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Posted by Nunya on October 6, 2006, 1:29 pm
Alan,
My house is sheathed in red wood, horizontal tounge in groove. I did
this in 1986 and sprayed it with creosote which you could easily obtain
back then. Since then I haven't touched it and except for a small
porch, which was done in 2x6, and a south facing dormer wall where I
didn't use "clear heart" it is in my opinion in great shape.
I do. not. paint. Never have, never will. So, I am still tossing
around for a siding option for the garage and tending at this point to
corrugated tin placed horizontally I think. It is 576 S.F. of wall
area not counting the two 9x7 garage doors.
A neighbor has vinyl on a double wide that is full of holes from a hail
storm. I don't know whether there is vinyl that will stand up to large
hail but I might ask at Lowe's when I go in. Maybe someone here knows
the answer. Though I am almost as averse to plastic as paint ....well,
it is just a thought. With vinyl it would be a little easier sealing
the corners, etc.
I also am toying with the idea of using some composite decking material
for the eaves/facia/wall corners/trim. Any thoughts on that?
John
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Posted by Jonny on October 6, 2006, 9:12 pm
> Alan,
> My house is sheathed in red wood, horizontal tounge in groove. I did
> this in 1986 and sprayed it with creosote which you could easily obtain
> back then. Since then I haven't touched it and except for a small
> porch, which was done in 2x6, and a south facing dormer wall where I
> didn't use "clear heart" it is in my opinion in great shape.
>
> I do. not. paint. Never have, never will. So, I am still tossing
> around for a siding option for the garage and tending at this point to
> corrugated tin placed horizontally I think. It is 576 S.F. of wall
> area not counting the two 9x7 garage doors.
>
> A neighbor has vinyl on a double wide that is full of holes from a hail
> storm. I don't know whether there is vinyl that will stand up to large
> hail but I might ask at Lowe's when I go in. Maybe someone here knows
> the answer. Though I am almost as averse to plastic as paint ....well,
> it is just a thought. With vinyl it would be a little easier sealing
> the corners, etc.
>
> I also am toying with the idea of using some composite decking material
> for the eaves/facia/wall corners/trim. Any thoughts on that?
>
> John
>
"Corrugated tin", normally used on a roof, can be used for cladding. It
will eventually rust. Half life is around 12 years. Might try same in
aluminum. Pay attention to use the right fasteners that won't cause
problems with it. "Corrugated tin" is normally applied vertically on walls
as per examples in my area of the woods.
--
Jonny
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Posted by Nunya on October 7, 2006, 10:06 am
Jonny,
You're right. I put it on my barn back in, say, 1975 and placed it
verically on the sides. The roof has rusted, but that's all, and keep
in mind this is really cheap material from a local chain called McCoys.
As a matter of fact replacing that roof is next on my major project
list after finishing this garage.
My thinking in placing it horizontally is that the corners might be
easier to make as well as easier to seal at the tops and bottoms of
walls, you know, to keep the "critters" out. I'm looking into it.
So, anyhow, this coming Thursday when the trusses are being delivered
the highs here in central Texas are supposed to be in the 70s with a
low that night in the high 40s. Great weather for roofing. I am
really looking forward to that. This two week hiatus waiting for the
trusses has been hell. And by the way, those cost $1082.09. Two gable
end trusses and eleven standard. The span is 22 feet with two foot
overhang. Could have stick built it for that which is what I did the
last time I built a roof. Most likely I would have been done by now.
But it has been in the mid 90s these last several days so that would
definitely not have been that much fun.
For those interested a further breakdown of the cost is $4700 for the
slab (25x22 with a small apron). The walls cost no more than $700 for
a total so far of about $6500. Pretty expensive, huh? I have brought
power into the building and cut in a load center. I can't believe how
much wire costs now. I had to buy a box (100 feet), but I only needed
60', of 10-2 UFB (for underground). It cost $95 plus tax. That shed a
little light on a news item I ran across the other day that the number
of people being electrocuted trying to steal copper has gone way up.
Thanks,
John
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Posted by Alan on October 7, 2006, 7:15 pm
John,
Well, creosote is a type of "paint". The clear Jascoe wood
preservative also works well, but the point is that redwood, as great
as it is relative to any other wood, still dries out and cracks over
time. I salvage old boards, typically 3/4" redwood tung and groove
siding others toss into the garbage, and then use the planer, table
saw, and router to make the finish boards I want. All my baseboards
are redwood, and I have made wainscoting in some rooms, besides the
exterior trim that I mentioned. Since there are holes where old
ungalvanized nails ate away at the wood, I have to fill in and paint.
A clear sealer won't look good. There is some waste though since
boards do crack.
Alan
Nunya wrote:
> Alan,
> My house is sheathed in red wood, horizontal tounge in groove. I did
> this in 1986 and sprayed it with creosote which you could easily obtain
> back then. Since then I haven't touched it and except for a small
> porch, which was done in 2x6, and a south facing dormer wall where I
> didn't use "clear heart" it is in my opinion in great shape.
>
> I do. not. paint. Never have, never will. So, I am still tossing
> around for a siding option for the garage and tending at this point to
> corrugated tin placed horizontally I think. It is 576 S.F. of wall
> area not counting the two 9x7 garage doors.
>
> A neighbor has vinyl on a double wide that is full of holes from a hail
> storm. I don't know whether there is vinyl that will stand up to large
> hail but I might ask at Lowe's when I go in. Maybe someone here knows
> the answer. Though I am almost as averse to plastic as paint ....well,
> it is just a thought. With vinyl it would be a little easier sealing
> the corners, etc.
>
> I also am toying with the idea of using some composite decking material
> for the eaves/facia/wall corners/trim. Any thoughts on that?
>
> John
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Posted by Nunya on October 7, 2006, 8:54 pm
Alan,
Yeah, but clear heart use defeats some of this bad aspect. As above
with the composite material I left a scrap piece of redwood clear heart
out on the ground. Been there since 1985 or so and it is still intact.
Pretty amazing, huh? It is softer than original, and, of course
redwood is soft anyhow, which in my opinion is a mark against it for
decking.
What made me decide to clad my house in it was a lady friend had a
house that I helped do some work on. It was about thirty years old and
the clear heart redwood siding, placed vertically, in a couple of
places at ground level was actually underground. My task involved
excavating around these ageas. I was amazed to find this buried wood
still virtually intact.
So, I resolved to use it on my place and found it a pleasure to work
with and though I made a few mistakes I have been, like you, very happy
with the material. I too used it indoors as window trim.
Finally, one has to admire your frugality with this natural resourse.
And, I never thought of creosote as paint. Rather a preservative.
Can't believe I got tricked into painting a surface. Ugh!
John
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